X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.4) with ESMTP id 1405633 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 16 Sep 2006 03:00:53 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.65; envelope-from=Dastaten@earthlink.net Received: from [69.91.63.162] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GOU9t-0000oa-H8 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 16 Sep 2006 03:00:13 -0400 Message-ID: <450BA0C5.3050500@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 01:59:17 -0500 From: David Staten User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Improving oil cooling [was Flight test] References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ELNK-Trace: 9a30bff84e6cb88f95c85d38d22416599ef193a6bfc3dd4891c39ea66d5ca3a4fa06156244cdb939666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.91.63.162 We are going to use two oil coolers. Thats per plans by the Velocity Factory manual. Dave David Carter wrote: > Al, > I've had a 1970 VW Bus since Jan 1971. Enlarged original engine to > 1835cc, which generated more heat. I instrumented the engine with > Manifold Pressure gage, oil pressure, and oil temp. > . . . I REPLACED the stock oil cooler "tower" with an adapter to take > the oil out of the engine to an external oil cooler - and added a > small (maybe 6" X 10") 5/8" thick aluminum finned oil cooler inside > the engine bay (think it was a small air conditioner device?) - hung > it from "ceiling" of engine compartment with coat hanger wire. It lay > horizontally, not perpendicular to any air coming down and over toward > fan housing opening near center of compartment. > . . . Point is, no hope of any significant airflow - it was all > "convection" (rising heated air) and "surface area". It cooled just > fine (better than stock). > This arrangement gave exellent cooling. That is point #1 > Point #2: I've heard others recommend, "If one stock Mazda oil cooler > doesn't cool enough, put in a 2nd." I don't have any anecdotes of > anyone doing that. > . . . I do know that we are all "wired" to "think airflow", "ducts", etc. > My hypothesis: Just put another Mazda oil cooler in-line with the > existing one - without any regard to ducting or orientation - just get > the extra cooler volume and cross section out somewhere (away from the > exhaust radiant heat), somewhere where it will fit, and let it > "radiate" and "convect" and I'll bet your temps will come down 10 to > 15 degrees - with no changes or mods to your ducting. That is what my > non-ducted, hanging in the bay, VW experience suggests. > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Al Gietzen > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2006 12:08 PM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Flight test > > Finally got the proper alignment of the planets (basically test > pilot schedule) for further flight of Velocity 755V – 20B. Plane > was in the air for ˝ hour this time, basically at level cruise > orbiting the airport. OAT was about 90F and flight was at DA of > about 7000’. > > Since the first flight when oil temps were high, I added a > temporary ram scoop under the ‘wing root’ oil cooler inlet. Oil > temp reached near 230 during climb but later stabilized at 200 - > 205F. Coolant stabilized at 180-185F. > > > > Al >