Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #3359
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] aluminum intake tubing?
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:27:46 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Hi Rusty,
 
    I presume you want them pre-bent?  If not you must anneal? the tubing to "O" (soft) condition prior to bending.  Otherwise, you will surely end up with cracks.  Then you can have the heat treated back to the 6061 T3/6 condition. 
 
   If you order from Burns and bent tubing, you will get it in the "O" condition or a slightly harder condition due to the cold work hardening from bending.  I found that heating them at 500F for 8 hours seems to harden them a bit - they don't ding as easily as the "O" condition.
 
For intake runners, I generally use 1 3/8" OD 0.058 or .065 wall thickness for the primary.  I use 1 5/8" OD same wall thickness  for secondaries.  I have used from 1 1/4" to 1 3/4" but I think the other diameters are about optimum.  Its all 6061 from Burns.  You can use 6063 (architecture aluminm alloy - a bit more corrosion resistant - but hard to find in bends.
 
You can get the Burn's lengths and then added to the lenght.  You can do it by adding a short length (2"?) of the next larger diameter size as a coupler so that both ends fit inside.  However, its difficult to find a welder that can weld thin tubing.  I have had good success with brazing the thin wall stuff.
 
 There are a couple of other places for bent tubing, but their  "tangents" as they call the length before and after the bend are even shorter and the walls much thicker - almost like pipes.
 
You can get pipe bends (Elbows) from RBWagner schedule 40 which has walls of approx 0.12 ".  It is much heavier but you can use it just for the bend and then stick in straight light weight tubes from  most of your runner lenght.
 
Just a few options.  Me, I am currently making the mold for another plastic intake part.  This time it will be for the lower part of the intake, so I can use inexpensive straight tubing with the bend in the plastic casting rather than keep paying for expensive pre-bent tubing.
 
Good Luck
 
Ed Anderon
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 1:35 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] aluminum intake tubing?

Ed (or anyone else),
 
Where's the best place to get aluminum tubing for intake runners.  What alloy, and wall thickness is most common?   Burns has 6061 with a 90 degree bend, but the legs are only 4" and 12" long, which won't be quite long enough.   Has anyone had good luck bending this size tubing yourself? 
 
Thanks,
Rusty
 
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