X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.192.82] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.3) with ESMTP id 1373335 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:41:01 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.192.82; envelope-from=rlwhite@comcast.net Received: from quail.site (c-68-35-160-229.hsd1.nm.comcast.net[68.35.160.229]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060911024016m12008c0kke>; Mon, 11 Sep 2006 02:40:21 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:40:10 -0600 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] It runs! Message-Id: <20060910204010.7df07774.rlwhite@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bob, Congratulations on the engine running. Be very cautious running without a prop. It's incredibly easy to over rev the engine and blow it up. I would have destroyed my engine if I had started it without a prop as I had made a stupid mistake and had the throttle in the wrong position. As it was, it went over 6000 rpm instantly on first start. I probably didn't do it any good, but haven't seen any negative effects yet. I'm a complete novice on the internals of the rotary, but will throw out something anyway. Could you have a problem with one or more of the oil 'O' rings? I think they keep oil out of the combustion chamber. I'm sure I will be corrected promptly if that' wrong. :) If I have a suggestion, it would be to replace the gas with a good mix of oil and see if the smoke clears up. But please put a load on it. It's too easy to over rev it. My engine smoked some when I first started it, but quit after a few minutes. I attributed it to the oil that had been used to protect the internals while it was sitting around. Rotating the engine by hand caused oil to dribble out the intake and exhaust ports when I first received it. Bob W. On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:51:02 -0500 "Bob Darrah" wrote: > Finally started my 20b on the test stand. It runs, but not very good. > Using Tracy's ECU and monitor, and a long (about 10 foot) umbilical cord > from the firewall, it will idle about 900 rpm, starts right up, but can > hardly get 6000 RPM without prop. The timing strobe shows about 35 degrees > BTDC. Seems to smoke a lot. > > Possible causes: > Too much oil in gas-just dumped in a couple gulups of oil in an > estamated 2 gallons of gas. > Embilical cord too long. > Intake manafold-homemade log type about 4 inch dia, with short (5in) > runners, tapering top to botom from log diameter to intake port size, but > constant width, the same as the ports. They match the ports well. I am in > a good position to put the original intake back on to see if that will help, > (last resort). > Exhaust pipe attaches to where the turbo will go and is a used auto > exhaust system, about 18 feet long including muffler. > Something else, anyone got any good ideas? > > I would like to get it to run better before I hang it in my Seawind. > Hanging it in that airplane is no easy task. > > > Bob Darrah > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (first engine start 1/7/06) Custom Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/