Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #3356
From: Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B's
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:04:51 -0700
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

    Thanks very much for taking the time to answer my questions!  I'm curious as to why you suggest the Renesis engine?  What things are improved w/ this new engine? I'm wondering though, if cost wouldn't out-way the incentive because you would have to buy a new engine from Mazda? Compared to the price of a 20B engine?  I tried looking up info on this new engine on Google and didn't really get anywhere and I wondering if you have other sources?  Do you know even ruffly the improvements a person could expect over the 20B?weights?Power?  If you had to do this all over again, what changes would you make? Would you still go w/ the 20B, Renesis? or something else? If you don't mind me asking [ just tell you you'd rather not say]  How much do you have into your 20B install? How is the price of the Catto prop compared to say and IVO Magnum?   Is your 20B install a normal breather or a turbo'd version?

 

Thanks very much for all your help!  I'm working on my own design and I can literally build the airframe to suite the engine or the other way around, but before I do I need to get all the facts I can!

 

Jarrett;

 

The 2-rotor Renesis will put out close to 90% of the hp of the 3-rotor 20B.  It is considerably lighter and probably has a bit lower BSFC.  The lighter rotors running at higher speed may even be smoother than the 20B.  Tracy already has the redrive for it.

 

I paid Atkins $6500 for the rebuilt 20B block plus alternator and water pump.  From what I understand, that is about the same price as a new renesis.  With all the custom parts, pieces, cooler, 2 radiators, inconel tangential muffler, intake manifold, TB, injectors, redrive, controller, fittings etc., etc., etc.; I have close to $22,000 into this installation.  It is normally aspirated; plenty of power for a plane that is designed for 200hp Lycoming.

 

I don’t regret anything about doing this engine installation, or building the plane.  I haven’t flown it yet, but I expect it to excellent.  If I had it all to do over again, I’d give serious consideration to buying an airplane and going flying.  But then you’re going on step further.  I started with a kit.

 

The Catto prop is $1650.  Don’t know the current price for the Ivo Magnum, but I guess it’s a couple hundred more.  I not impressed with the IVO from a reliability standpoint, and I think the pitch distribution limits top end performance if you expect to go over about 210-220 kts.

 

Just one guy’s point of view. . .

Al

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