X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc1-s24.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.96] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 1322450 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 01:59:52 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.246.96; envelope-from=thomphy@msn.com Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.8.152]) by bay0-omc1-s24.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:59:05 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:59:05 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 67.42.7.218 by BAY118-DAV14.phx.gbl with DAV; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:59:03 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [67.42.7.218] X-Originating-Email: [thomphy@msn.com] X-Sender: thomphy@msn.com From: "Thomas Phy" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Oshkosh Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:10:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007A_01C6B364.3FDEB7E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2006 05:59:05.0367 (UTC) FILETIME=[43B2DA70:01C6B39D] Return-Path: thomphy@msn.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C6B364.3FDEB7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I was just going to forward these messages to EAA National, but I = thought I should first ask for permission. I did not get to Oshkosh this = year. In fact, I have not attended for various reasons for over 18 = years! I do attend Arlington, and I certainly do enjoy the atmosphere = there.=20 I've also just finished reading the EAA eHotline, volume 6 Number 36, = (no I don't follow every link) and accept for the article labeled = "Largest kit builder working on LSA" (and then they started off talking = about Cessna's LSA) there was not too much about Experimental A/C at = all. (oh yea, some gentleman flew his Pelican from Brazil, A better man = then me) Even the LSA Mall, was all abuzz about the advent of = "CERTIFIED", buy and fly, Special Light Sport Aircraft (S-LSA) . Look = Ma, Ya don't even have to build it! I to, have been a member for a long, long time. (EAA # 115635). For the = most part, I don't read the magazine anymore. At best, I just page = through it and recycle it to the library. Used to be I read it cover to = cover, as soon as it arrived. I was also an A/P, working in the small = FBO's of PA. & NJ., then working for regional airlines. I learned allot, = about allot of things back then, through the magazine. So, do I have your blessings to forward these comments, and anyone else = that may have had similar experiences? If your a better word smith then = I (or not), and your able to put your thoughts onto the backs of some = electrons, send them to me and I'll forward "OUR" thoughts to every = email address I can find in the Sport Aviation. I know, this is a rotary group. But this is our organization that has = moved to the dark side. Thanks for letting me vent. Thomas Phy RV-7, Renesis on a boat (I hope) EAA # 115635 V.P. EAA Chapter 1345 Bend Or. 97756 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bob Perkinson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:34 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oshkosh I think the only reason that I keep My membership in the EAA is the = relatively low member number,below 150,000. Joined in 1977 when the = magazine contained articles about home built airplanes, and the adds = were segregated in the back of the book. Jack Cox was my hero, he could = paint a verbal picture of an airplane that left you wanting more. Those = days are gone. I could see it coming when the magazine first came out = with the back of the front page , which was always reserved for an = article from President Paul, sold to advertise someone's commercial = product. It's hard to tell Sports Aviation from People magazine now. Bob Perkinson Hendersonville, TN. RV9 N658RP Reserved If nothing changes Nothing changes =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Tracy Crook Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:53 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oshkosh Hi all - this is Laura Crook (Tracy's wife). Tracy arrived at = Oshkosh on 7/27 (Thursday) about 1:30 pm local time. He didn't mention = how many planes were on the field, but he did recount this story: Every year for the past 9 years the EAA has graciously mailed Tracy = a special arrival sign to display upon landing, to indicate that he is = an auto powered plane. The sign is always accompanied by a letter going = on and on about how the auto engine pilots exemplify the "true spirit" = of Experimental Aviation blah blah blah. For almost as many years, = upon arrival, the ground crew either has absolutely zero idea what an = "auto powered" plane is and leads him to a random parking spot and/or = after landing, it they know where the auto powered row is, they taxi = him for 1.5 HOURS, usually in the 95 degree heat (translation: 110 = degrees in an RV cockpit). This year was no exception - they did park him on the auto powered = row after a 1.5 hour taxi. He was NOT a happy person when he called me. = He is not sure that he will ever attend again - it is just inexcusable = year after year after year. =20 Laura ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Downing=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Oshkosh Buly; I just returned from Oshkosh, not sure if there were 50 = homebuilts on the field. Every where you looked you could see planes = that qualified if you could sign 51% of your name. The main theme of = conversation on home building by folks looking at The Wittman Tailwinds, = was, what has happened. At SAA two years ago, Paul mentioned at the = banquet that a young couple came to camp and didn't have the money to = get on the flight line, he said they were escorted out and shown the = road and most of the gathering applauded. The only reason I stopped by, = was my daughter was there with my grandson working on a Boy Scout Badge. = I could go on and tell how we were treated like %#@&, but I won't. I = don't care if I never make it to Oshkosh with my home built. JohnD ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C6B364.3FDEB7E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
I was just going to forward these messages to = EAA=20 National, but I thought I should first ask for permission. I did not get = to=20 Oshkosh this year. In fact, I have not attended for various reasons for = over 18=20 years! I do attend Arlington, and I certainly do enjoy the atmosphere=20 there. 
 
I've also just finished reading the EAA = eHotline, volume 6=20 Number 36, (no I don't follow every link) and accept for the article = labeled=20 "Largest kit builder working on LSA" (and then they started off = talking=20 about Cessna's LSA) there was not too much about Experimental A/C at = all. (oh=20 yea, some gentleman flew his Pelican from Brazil, A better man then me) = Even the=20 LSA Mall, was all abuzz about the advent of "CERTIFIED", buy and fly, = Special=20 Light Sport Aircraft (S-LSA) . Look Ma, Ya don't even have to build = it!
I to, have been a member for a long, long time. = (EAA #=20 115635). For the most part, I don't read the magazine anymore. = At=20 best, I just page through it and recycle it to the library. Used to be I = read it=20 cover to cover, as soon as it arrived. I was also an A/P, working in the = small=20 FBO's of PA. & NJ., then working for regional airlines. I = learned=20 allot, about allot of things back then, through the = magazine.
So, do I have your blessings to forward these = comments,=20 and anyone else that may have had similar experiences? If your a better = word=20 smith then I (or not), and your able to put your thoughts onto the backs = of some=20 electrons, send them to me and I'll forward "OUR" thoughts to every = email=20 address I can find in the Sport Aviation.
I know, this is a rotary group. But this is our=20 organization that has moved to the dark side. Thanks for letting me=20 vent.
Thomas Phy
RV-7, Renesis on a boat (I hope)
EAA # 115635
V.P. EAA Chapter 1345
Bend Or. 97756
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bob=20 Perkinson
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 = 8:34=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Oshkosh

I think the only reason that I = keep My=20 membership in the EAA is the relatively low member number,below = 150,000. =20 Joined in 1977 when the magazine contained articles about home built=20 airplanes, and the adds were segregated in the back of the book.  = Jack=20 Cox was my hero, he could paint a verbal picture of an airplane that = left you=20 wanting more.  Those days are gone.  I could see it coming = when the=20 magazine first came out with the back of the front page , which was = always=20 reserved for an article from President Paul, sold to advertise = someone's=20 commercial product.  It's hard to tell Sports Aviation from = People=20 magazine now.
 

Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
RV9 N658RP Reserved
If = nothing=20 changes
Nothing changes
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of = Tracy=20 Crook
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:53 AM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Oshkosh

Hi all  - this is Laura Crook (Tracy's wife).  Tracy = arrived=20 at Oshkosh on 7/27 (Thursday) about 1:30 pm local time.  He = didn't=20 mention how many planes were on the field, but he did recount this=20 story:
 
Every year for the past 9 years the EAA has graciously mailed = Tracy a=20 special arrival sign to display upon landing, to indicate that he is = an auto=20 powered plane.  The sign is always accompanied by a letter = going on and=20 on about how the auto engine pilots exemplify the "true spirit" of=20 Experimental Aviation   blah  blah   = blah. =20 For almost as many years, upon arrival,  the ground crew either = has=20 absolutely zero idea what an "auto powered" plane is and leads him = to a=20 random parking spot and/or after landing, it they  know where = the auto=20 powered row is, they taxi him for 1.5 HOURS, usually in the 95 = degree heat=20 (translation: 110 degrees in an RV cockpit).
 
This year was no exception - they did park him on the auto = powered row=20 after a 1.5 hour taxi.  He was NOT a happy person when he = called=20 me.  He is not sure that he will ever attend again - it is just = inexcusable year after year after year. 
 
Laura
----- Original Message ----- =
From: John Downing
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 = 10:06=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] = Oshkosh

Buly;  I just returned from Oshkosh, = not sure=20 if there were 50 homebuilts on the field.  Every where you = looked you=20 could see planes that qualified if you could sign 51% of your = name. =20 The main theme of conversation on home building by folks looking = at The=20 Wittman Tailwinds, was, what has happened.  At SAA two years = ago,=20 Paul mentioned at the banquet that a young couple came to camp and = didn't=20 have the money to get on the flight line, he said they were = escorted out=20 and shown the road and most of the gathering applauded.  The = only=20 reason I stopped by, was my daughter was there with my grandson = working on=20 a Boy Scout Badge.  I could go on and tell how we were = treated like=20 %#@&, but I won't.  I don't care if I never make it to = Oshkosh=20 with my home built. =20 JohnD
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