Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #32533
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EM-2 question for Tracy
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 10:36:53 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Rusty got it right (as usual).  I had incandescent lights in mind when the circuit was designed but LEDs will work as long as the limitations pointed out by Rusty are observed. 
 
Tracy
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Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 11:15 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EM-2 question for Tracy

Thanks Rusty, that describes the behavior exactly. 12V supply, 12V prepackaged LED that glows dimly when power is applied to EM-2.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045
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Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 9:01 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EM-2 question for Tracy

I have an LED (designed for 12V)  wired up for the alarm light, and it comes on (not flashing, steady) at what seems to be about half brightness when power is applied to the EM-2.  
 
Hi Bill,
 
I had the exact same problem with the current EM-2 (all in one), but not with the earlier one (separate electronics box).  In both cases, I used the exact same super bright LED's from the Shack of Rat. 
 
In talking to Tracy, my understanding is that the alarm signal pin is on a 5V pull up, with a 10k ohm resistor.  When the EM-2 wants the light on, it grounds the pin, but when it's "off", the pin would be sitting at 5V.  If you tie the light to 12V, then there's a 7V potential across the light, with a 10k ohm resistor in series.  This will allow some current to flow, and would probably not be noticeable on an incandescent lamp, but for LED's, it will appear to be on, but dim.  
 
The fix was to use one of the EM-2 5V outputs for the LED alarm light power.  This gives no voltage differential when the light is supposed to be off, and 5V differential when on.  
 
If you are using a pre-packaged LED that's made for 12V, and you use 5V instead, it will work but will be dimmer than it would have been with 12V.   You may have to use a different LED. 
 
Tracy may also have a better answer now, so stand by for the real answer :-)
 
Cheers,
Rusty (single rotor engine currently installed on the hanger floor)
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