X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.65] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 1128488 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 25 May 2006 22:15:10 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.65; envelope-from=atlasyts@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.223.129.135]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060526021421.YQUA19704.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 22:14:21 -0400 Received: from [68.223.129.135] by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060526021421.MDRL23598.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[68.223.129.135]> for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 22:14:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bulent Aliev Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Spark plug gap (was Re: Another case of heat-soaked coils? Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 22:16:18 -0400 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) On May 25, 2006, at 9:22 PM, Lehanover@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/25/2006 10:28:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > atlasyts@bellsouth.net writes: > Lynn, where do we stand with John? Our engines have the high > compression rotors and they are turbo charged. Should we use different > plugs than the stock ones that everyone uses? > Thanks > Buly > http://tinyurl.com/dcy36 > The correct technical answer is that I have no clue. The very > coldest plug possible would be my best guess. The "stock turbo" > plugs should do well. The turbo engines run lower static > compression because the turbo and supercharged engine keep changing > displacement as the boost goes up and down. The head space is > always the same, so the dynamic compression ratio can go way up > very fast in operation. > > So, if the boost is way up, and you are force feeding 160 cubic > inches of mixture to your 60 cubic inch engine, have you raised the > compression ratio? > > Controllers designed for turbo use have a retard feature the is > actuated by the Lambda knock sensor. At the first hint of knock > (detonation) the lambda pulses the controller and the controller > pulls out, say, 2 degrees of advance and waits for another > revolution to be completed. If it gets another Lambda hit it will > pull out another 2 degrees, and so on. > > This saves the engine by reducing combustion chamber heat. > (Detonation is charge temperature dependant). It also reduces > engine power over the short run. Other inputs can reduce charge > heat, for example a temp sensor might light a warning light, as > well as the Lambda hit through the controller. A temp sensor might > also switch on a water spray to the water and or oil coolers. Or > the inter-cooler. > > The object of ignition timing is to develop the highest cylinder > pressure at the correct crankshaft angle for maximum efficiency. > Note that retarding the timing is therefore reducing efficiency. > This would involve many items such as burn rate, compression ratio, > chamber temp and soon. > > Note also that higher cylinder pressures increase ignition voltage > requirements. So turbo, and supercharged engines have very exotic > ignition systems. Lower boost numbers less trouble. > Higher boost numbers more trouble. > > > Lynn E. Hanover Thanks Lynn. Buly