X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [216.211.128.10] (HELO mail-in03.adhost.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 1073543 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:42:11 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.211.128.10; envelope-from=joeh@pilgrimtech.com Received: from Pilgrim10 (tide514.microsoft.com [131.107.0.84]) by mail-in03.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F542CF2E4 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:41:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joeh@pilgrimtech.com) From: "Joe Hull" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: 1st Flights - Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:41:22 -0700 Message-ID: <006201c663f1$a2397320$cda0389d@redmond.corp.microsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0063_01C663B6.F5DA9B20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: AcZj8DigWjSsytdRQNa1+9E1I8TTaQAAFS2g In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C663B6.F5DA9B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanx Rusty. Yep, I one of those OCD (obsessive compulsive) type people. If it ain't perfect then fixate on it! You're absolutely right about getting comfortable with the plane. That's mostly what I did today- lots of turns, climbs, and descends. But in case of emergency my landings suck! They don't suck if I actually get it down close within the first 1/3rd of the runway. But I'm tending to come in way to hot and high. It took 3 passes today to get it down - when I did on the 3rd try it was a "greaser" - but if I'd had to land on one of the first 2 approaches I would have been touching down about where the end of the runway was! So, next time I go out it's going to be a lot of pattern work. I want to get that no-power-landing nailed so I can pick a spot and land on it if something ever does go wrong. ThanxAgain, Joe Hull Cozy Mk-IV #991 (In Phase1 Flight Test - 1.9 hrs flown) Redmond (Seattle), Washington _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Russell Duffy Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:30 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 1st Flights - I also ran the engine hard - full throttle - for about 30 minutes in mostly straight and level flight - but with the gear down still. I was getting 140kts at 5300RPM - but that's all I could get. The oil temps were also hitting 200 degrees - so I backed off and let things cool down to 180. Hi Joe, So far, your testing seems pretty uneventful, which is great! I would advise you to stop worrying about performance at this early stage, and just concentrate on reliability, and initial airframe testing. Sounds like you have plenty of power to fly the plane, with good temps, etc, so just use the first 20 hours or so to get completely familiar with the plane, and put some time on the engine. Once you're totally comfortable with the airframe, then worry about power and performance. When you start pushing the engine, is when thing's are more likely to break. Hopefully, nothing will, but if it does, you'll be glad you have all that quality time under your belt already. Hey, you might even have insurance :-) Most folks go through a number of iterations before getting the performance they hoped for, so just expect that will be the case, and be pleasantly surprised if it isn't. Keep up the great testing! Rusty (testing my sunburn endurance, which is about 5 minutes) ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C663B6.F5DA9B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Thanx Rusty.  Yep, I one of = those OCD (obsessive compulsive) type people. If it ain’t perfect then = fixate on it!  You’re absolutely right about getting comfortable with = the plane.  That’s mostly what I did today- lots of turns, = climbs, and descends.  But in case of emergency my landings suck! They = don’t suck if I actually get it down close within the first 1/3rd = of the runway. But I’m tending to come in way to hot and high. It took 3 passes = today to get it down – when I did on the 3rd try it was a = “greaser” – but if I’d had to land on one of the first 2 approaches I = would have been touching down about where the end of the runway was!  So, = next time I go out it’s going to be a lot of pattern work. I want to = get that no-power-landing nailed so I can pick a spot and land on it if something ever does go = wrong.

 

ThanxAgain,=

Joe = Hull

Cozy Mk-IV #991 (In Phase1 Flight = Test - 1.9 hrs flown)

Redmond (Seattle), Washington

 


From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Russell Duffy
Sent: Wednesday, April = 19, 2006 1:30 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = 1st Flights -

 

I also ran the engine hard - full throttle - for about 30 minutes in mostly = straight and level flight - but with the gear down still. I was getting 140kts at 5300RPM - but that's all I could get. The oil temps were also hitting = 200 degrees - so I backed off and let things cool down to = 180.

 

Hi Joe,

 

So far, your testing seems pretty uneventful, which is great!  I would advise you to stop = worrying about performance at this early stage, and just concentrate on = reliability, and initial airframe testing.  Sounds like you have plenty of = power to fly the plane, with good temps, etc, so just use the first 20 hours or = so to get completely familiar with the plane, and put some time on the engine.   Once you're totally comfortable with the airframe, = then worry about power and performance.   When you start pushing = the engine, is when thing's are more likely to break.  Hopefully, = nothing will, but if it does, you'll be glad you have all that quality time = under your belt already.  Hey, you might even have insurance = :-)

 

Most folks go through a number of iterations before getting the performance they hoped for, so just = expect that will be the case, and be pleasantly surprised if it = isn't.  

 

Keep up the great = testing!

Rusty (testing my sunburn endurance, = which is about 5 minutes) 

 

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