X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.66] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 1070681 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:21:56 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.66; envelope-from=Dastaten@earthlink.net Received: from user-0cetj34.cable.mindspring.com ([24.238.204.100] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FVUbI-0001h3-Ky for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:21:12 -0400 Message-ID: <4443A442.50601@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:20:50 -0500 From: David Staten User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Typical EGT References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 9a30bff84e6cb88f95c85d38d22416599ef193a6bfc3dd48a6970bbb5b99ba1041eab8536a52fc87a8438e0f32a48e08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.238.204.100 I will be doing EGT's 1"-2" away from the exhaust port and likely will have a Turbine inlet temp probe on the turbo housing. Once i get the two EGT's to match between rotors, I intend to lean/manage the engine based on the the TIT. Right now the exhaust manifold is down at the shop having the tailpipe made up. Dave Tracy Crook wrote: > Well, don't get quite that comfortable with it. I am not a turbo > expert (no Holiday Inn visits either) but there is typically a 200 deg > drop after the turbo so 1800 down stream may represent 2000 upstream, > not a feel good number. Just a gut-feel number, but try 1760 > down-stream EGT redline and see if you can live with it. > > Any of you turbo guys ever measure upstream EGTs? I'm shooting in the > dark here. > > Tracy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* John Slade > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Sunday, April 16, 2006 2:29 PM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Typical EGT > > I'm measuring downstream of the turbo. > I guess I'll just set the alarm up to 1800 and stop worrying about it. > Thanks. > John > > Tracy Crook wrote: > > Hells' bells John, 1650 on takeoff is stone cold. I normally > saw 1760 > > - 1800 on a NA 13B. Turbos normally run higher (pre- turbo) > than NA. > > > > BTW, which side of the turbo are you measuring? Temps are lower > > down-stream. Another observation - A turbo with LESS > restriction will > > give higher EGT readings down-stream of the turbine so this > could be > > normal. > > > > Tracy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* John Slade > > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > > > *Sent:* Saturday, April 15, 2006 8:33 PM > > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Typical EGT > > > > Rotarians, > > When I installed my T04 turbo I must have damaged the EGT > probe. I > > was > > seeing 500F on take-off. Today I installed a new probe and it > > looks like > > the new turbo runs a lot hotter than the old one. While > installing > > the > > new probe I noticed that the ceramic coating on the turbo had > > turned to > > dust. > > > > On take-off today I saw 1730 and the EGT alarm went off. I > backed off > > the throttle and flew with it down around 1600, but that > only gets me > > around 4500 rpm and zero boost. Bring it up to 5000 rpm and > I see > > 1650. > > This is with the mixture a little higher than mid scale. > Richen the > > mixture a tad and I can reduce EGT by 30 F or so. If I bring the > > rpm up > > to 5300 the EGT is up to 1700 pretty quickly. Oil and coolant > > temps are > > fine at around 180 - 190. I put 3.3 hours on the plane today > with no > > other issues, but at 4500 rpm I don't get there very fast. :( > > > > What do other rotary flyers consider max EGT, and what could be > > causing > > it to be so high (if this is really high)? > > John > > N96PM > > 60.5 Hrs. > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ >