X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 1029530 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:30:15 -0500 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=171.71.176.71; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2006 08:29:30 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.02,181,1139212800"; d="scan'208"; a="313332345:sNHT36691142" Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k2AGTT7T000900 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:29:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.21]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:29:29 -0500 Received: from [64.102.38.229] ([64.102.38.229]) by xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:29:29 -0500 Message-ID: <4411A969.8080704@nc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:29:29 -0500 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@nc.rr.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.4.1 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: NACA's, Cooling and Sport Aviation Mag.. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2006 16:29:29.0472 (UTC) FILETIME=[CDF6C000:01C6445F] Al Gietzen wrote: > I agree that the 'automatic' assumption that a NACA will not work for > a rad/oil cooler is not always valid. Equally incorrect is the > 'automatic' assumption that the NACA scoop is lower drag. Drag is a > measure of the directed energy of the air in vs the directed energy > out. It’s about the design of the scoops, the core and the ducting – > both in and out. > > All we know for sure is that a ram scoop has a better chance of > successfully providing the cooling you need because you have a larger > pressure head to work with. > We work so well together, Al. I agree with you 100%. Design the most efficient exhaust and internal ducts possible. That will set the tail pressure. Go all the way to the P-51 style scoop, including the seperation from the fuselage to avoid the boundary layer, in order to maximize head pressure. Start sinking the inlet if the pressure isn't needed. Kelly, I've worked out a few other particulars of my cooling design. The oil cooler will fit better than radiators in the right strake. I have a dual oil filter fixture mounted on the firewall, and I can feed the oil straight through to the cooler mounted in a duct. The stock oil cooler has both the inlet and outlet on the same end, so this works nicely to keep the lines short. I'll just need a few short jumpers and a straight run from the firewall to the front of the engine (airplane orientation). A flap arrangment on the exit will seal the top of the fuselage on the ground and provide for drag reduction in the air. I'll suck the boundary layer (what there will be of it) from the 'scoop' just in front of the entrance, and use it to supply cool cabin air. Another pick-up after the cooler will supply heated cabin air. I'll bring the two together into a mixer before dumping it in the cabin. I'll build a perferated tube into the upper fuselage skin around the cabin to direct air up onto the underside of the canopy for defrosting. Another tube will run through the lower front of the passenger's seat to direct air to the passenger's feet. I'll provide a shortened exit duct just behind the fuel tank on the turtle back to help drop the cabin pressure (otherwise the boundary layer pickup wouldn't work). The left strake will hold one radiator, with another one mounted in the nose in front of the exhaust. Two firewall mounted T's will split the water. Individual electric water pumps after the split. Still need to work out a suitable check-valve arangement. The strake mounted one will also have a flap arrangement. The nose mounted radiator's air will exit across the exhaust, and help to pull some of that heat from under the cowl. I hope to skin the belly of this beast tomorrow. -- ,|"|"|, Ernest Christley | ----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta Builder | o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org |