Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #30618
From: M Roberts <montyr2157@alltel.net>
Subject: flyrotary_Web_Archive
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 23:45:33 -0600
To: <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
At the risk of invoking PL's name, anyone else read this months Sport Aviation mag from EAA, and notice an article on cooling that seems to indicate that NACA's are acceptable and adequate for aircraft cooling needs? I have no idea regarding the authors credentials, and I no longer monitor PL's "newsletter".. I was curious more than anything else... Pauls reaction, others reactions, etc.

Translation.. yes.. I'm stirring the pot/Trolling... I figure if we are using NACA's on the Velocity, that makes us somewhat of a NACA supporter..
 
Dave,
 
 
ZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIINNNNNNGGGGGGGG Hit the drag and set the hook!!! I took the bait.
 
NACA submerged inlets will work just fine. Some people have a favorite quote from the very preliminary first report (NACA-ACR-5I20, 14NOV1945) on these inlets:
 
"Submerged inlets do not appear to have desirable pressure recovery characteristics for use in supplying air to oil coolers, radiators, or carburetors of conventional reciprocating engines. The required diffusion of the air and the range of inlet-velocity ratios is too great to give desirable characteristics at all flight conditions."
 
Now if you read nothing else on this subject and never did any actual building or testing and totally ignored all the instances where these inlets work just fine you would conclude that they would never work. You would, however, be totally, completely and utterly wrong.
 
Some people fail to cite their sources or subsequent papers and prefer to copyright the work of others while twisting the facts to fit their (very wrong) view of the world.
 
The later and much more thorough investigation on these inlets was released 13JAN48 (NACA-RM-A7I30)Two of the original authors wrote this paper as a continuation of the work.
 
This paper is very good and highly recommended. It actually gives the design variables and relevant data required to properly design an efficient, low drag flush inlet.
 
Quoting directly from this paper on page 18 under the heading:
 
Possible Applications For NACA Submerged Inlets
 
"Other applications could include some ducting systems involving cooling and carburetor air. If this type of entrance could be substituted for the protruding scoop-type of inlet, the aerodynamic neatness of the aircraft would be greatly enhanced."
 
There are several gotchas with a flush inlet.
 
1.) you must not have a thick boundary layer RELATIVE TO THE SIZE OF THE SCOOP.
 
2.) you must have the appropriate mass flow ratio and pressure recovery ratio chosen for your application. This is difficult to do over a large range with radiators. If you insist on making the cooling system design with a Mack truck sized radiator using design criteria suitable for fully laden WWII bombers operating out of North Africa in the middle of summer at Vy, you will be unable to come up with a flush inlet design that will work. However, if you design for cruise and our application, you will be able to make a very nice low drag installation.
 
3.) You need an appropriate diffuser after the inlet. This is one problem I have with this paper. They used a very long, gradual diffuser. Which is probably not a good idea with the flush inlet. The two vortices make for a very turbulent flow field. This means you will have a lot of losses from mixing in a long diffuser duct. A short multi segment 7 deg type or perhaps a shorter K&W streamline diffuser will probably be a lot better. It's hard to say what the effect of the turbulence on the streamline diffuser would be. It would take some testing to find out whether the guide vanes in the shorter 7 deg diffuser would be better or worse than the K&W streamline type. I do think shorter is better. The turbulence should help to minimize seperation. Trying to stretch out the process is just going to make a lot of losses.
 
I would suggest that the combination of a thick boundary layer and a less than optimal diffuser make this study CONSERVATIVE.... The relative results are still useful, however.
 
4.) the lip must be a very thick airfoil shape. Most people totally screw the pooch here. They also make the ducts way too short and way too steep. Then they put little bitty inlets in a thick boundary layer, or a low pressure region.
 
Guess what? if you do all these things that the paper says not to do-it won't work. Some people take that to mean they will never work, ever, anywhere, period.
 
Data never lies, but liars always use data, and a few quotes out of context for good measure.
 
 
Monty
 
 
 
 
 

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