X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 972145 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:19:55 -0500 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.102.122.149; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com ([64.102.124.13]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Feb 2006 11:19:11 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.02,92,1139202000"; d="scan'208"; a="81792283:sNHT30646672" Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k16GJ06L007211 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.38]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:18:51 -0500 Received: from [64.102.38.131] ([64.102.38.131]) by xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:18:51 -0500 Message-ID: <43E776EB.20208@nc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:18:51 -0500 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@nc.rr.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.4.1 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Single rotor smooth as silk now References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2006 16:18:51.0314 (UTC) FILETIME=[045F9120:01C62B39] Richard Sohn wrote: > > Hi Rusty, > > let me throw something in here on the dampener. Tracy's dampener > is not built to take up a lot of torque vibration at low rpm. What > we need on the single is having the soft elements closer to the > center line of the e-shaft, allowing more movement in them, eg. > having a softer coupling = lower resonant frequency, and at the > same time utilizing some of the dampening characteristics > inherrent in the rubber. The closest to that requrement I could > come up with, is the do-nut shaped coupler used on Rotax and Hirth > engines. They are also available in different Shore values. I have > not found a US source yet. > I have not demonstrated yet if this solution is sufficient, but > analysis indicates that, if the idle speed is 1500rpm or above, it > should be ok. > All this does not eliminate the careful selction of a sufficient > fly wheel. > > Richard Sohn > N-2071U > > There are two ways to avoid resonance. Drive out all the play in the system, putting the resonant frequency above the operating range, or add a lot of play, putting resonance below idle. The Powersport guys tried the former, driving the redrive cost beyond resonable. But that was with a two rotor. Would a single with no dampers put the resonance beyond the useful range? -- ,|"|"|, Ernest Christley | ----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta Builder | o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org |