X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [129.116.87.143] (HELO MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.7f) with ESMTP id 951894 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:21:14 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=129.116.87.143; envelope-from=mark.steitle@austin.utexas.edu X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C620F9.B52DC375" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Two Alternators? Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:20:28 -0600 Message-ID: <87DBA06C9A5CB84B80439BA09D86E69E0378D930@MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Two Alternators? Thread-Index: AcYg9X7dPbsIB5dcTH+rIx3wB+oG6AAA7t3w From: "Mark R Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C620F9.B52DC375 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, I forgot to answer your question. Each battery is connected independently to its own alternator through an individual contactor. If one alt fails, I can shut it off by opening the field (good argument for external regulated alt) and close the x-feed contactor to connect both batteries in parallel. So, a failed alternator should be a non-event... just open the field on the failed alt, flip the x-feed switch and continue on to my destination. =20 Mark S. =20 =20 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of John Slade Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:00 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Two Alternators? =20 Mark, How do you charge the backup battery? A diode? Got a part number? I'm just switching a contactor right now, but I'd like to isolate the backup. Regards, John -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Mark R Steitle Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:21 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Two Alternators? Doug, I have dual alternators and dual batteries per Aero-Electric Z-14 architecture. I'm using the small 55amp ND units. They weigh about half of what the Mazda alternator weighs, so I rationalized that there was very little weight penalty to using two alternators, but a significant safety improvement. With an electrically dependent engine and all electric panel, I decided this was the way to go for me. The cross-feed contactor connects both Odyssey batteries during starting, so I am able to use smaller batteries than would be required to start the 3-rotor with only one battery. Every annual, I plan on replacing the main battery, rotating the 1 year old main battery to the aux position, and move the 2 year old aux battery to my Goldwing motorcycle. That way the main battery will be less than one year old, the aux battery will be 1 - 2 years old, and the motorcycle battery will be 2-3 years old. I'll send you a picture off-line. =20 =20 Mark S.=20 =20 =09 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of DLOMHEIM@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:11 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Two Alternators? =20 I am debating the future use of two batteries vs. two alternators and I was wondering if anyone in the group has mounted a second alternator and if so if they had any pictures of its mounting location, etc. =20 Thanks for the information. =20 Doug Lomheim RV-9A / 13B OK City, OK ------_=_NextPart_001_01C620F9.B52DC375 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

John,

I forgot to answer your = question.  Each battery is connected independently to its own alternator through an = individual contactor.  If one alt fails, I can shut it off by opening the = field (good argument for external regulated alt) and close the x-feed contactor to = connect both batteries in parallel.  So, a failed alternator should be a = non-event… just open the field on the failed alt, flip the x-feed switch and = continue on to my destination.

 

Mark S.  =

 


From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of John Slade
Sent: Tuesday, January = 24, 2006 8:00 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Two Alternators?

 

Mark,

How do you charge the backup = battery? A diode? Got a part number?

I'm just switching a contactor = right now, but I'd like to isolate the backup.

Regards,

John

-----Original = Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Mark R Steitle
Sent: Tuesday, January = 24, 2006 8:21 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Two Alternators?

Doug,

I have dual alternators and dual = batteries per Aero-Electric Z-14 architecture.  I’m using the small = 55amp ND units.  They weigh about half of what the Mazda alternator weighs, = so I rationalized that there was very little weight penalty to using two alternators, but a significant safety improvement.  With an = electrically dependent engine and all electric panel, I decided this was the way to = go for me.  The cross-feed contactor connects both Odyssey batteries = during starting, so I am able to use smaller batteries than would be required = to start the 3-rotor with only one battery.  Every annual, I plan on = replacing the main battery, rotating the 1 year old main battery to the aux position, = and move the 2 year old aux battery to my Goldwing motorcycle.  That = way the main battery will be less than one year old, the aux battery will be 1 - = 2 years old, and the motorcycle battery will be 2-3 years old.  = I’ll send you a picture off-line. 

 

Mark S. =

 


From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of DLOMHEIM@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, January = 24, 2006 6:11 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Two Alternators?

 

I am debating the future use of = two batteries vs. two alternators and I was wondering if anyone in the group = has mounted a second alternator and if so if they had any pictures of its = mounting location, etc.

 

=

Thanks for the = information.

 

=

Doug Lomheim    = RV-9A / 13B

OK City, = OK

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