Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #29661
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector pulseing ? Tracy ?
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 07:58:53 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Yes, Ed has it correct.  I would add that the injection is not batch fired but is port,  i.e., the injection pulse is timed to coincide with the intake stroke of the rotor it is feeding.
 
Tracy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 11:46 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector pulseing ? Tracy ?


Dean,

Here's my take on it.   For all six faces to go through their cycle requires
1080 deg of e shaft rotation.  So if you have six faces (3 x 2 rotors) then
each face requires 1080/6 = 180 degrees of e shaft rotation to complete its
cycle.  So two faces (one on each rotor) would complete their cycle (intake,
compression, combustion, exhaust) in 360 deg of the e shaft rotation.

I believe the EC2 fires all four injectors (assuming it has staged) once
during that 360 deg rotation of the e eshaft providing sufficient fuel for
the two faces (approx 2 x 40 cid = 80 cid) of ingested air/fuel mixture.

But, Tracy is obviously the one who really knows {:>)

Ed A




> Tracy, Ed, and Kelly
>
> I am not up to speed yet on the EC2, but aren't we really saying that
> injector pulsing is one time per rev per rotor ?  And how would Mark
> Burton's constant speed controller react if the EC2 was switched to
> injector disable mode.  Depending on how it was wired, it might suddenly
> sense zero power or 2X power.  Just thinking out loud.
>
> Best Regards
> Dean Van Winkle    RV-9A  13B
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kelly Troyer" <keltro@att.net>
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 5:36 PM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector pulseing ? Tracy ?
>
>
>> Tracy and Ed,
>>    Thanks for the info......I am talking to the producer of a
>> constant speed prop controller for my "IVO" and he needed to
>> know how many injector pulses per revolution.....Uses it as a
>> signal for the power percentage function of his controller....
>> Like I need to duplicate one of my EM2 functions !!
>>
>> --
>> Kelly Troyer
>> Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>>> Hi Kelly,
>>>
>>> I've been over this with Tracy several times and the answer is always
>>> "ONE  time
>>> per rev" {:>).  The reason I ask the question is that for my EFI fuel
>>> monitor to
>>> give the right answer, I have to set a constant for the injectors flow
>>> rate that
>>> is twice the rate flow Mazda claims.  But, if the injectors did pulse
>>> twice per
>>> rev then the stated injector flow rate would suffice.
>>>
>>> However, no matter how many times I ask Tracy,  he stubbornly keeps
>>> insisting
>>> "only once per rev" {:>)
>>>
>>> Ed A
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Tracy Crook
>>>   To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>>>   Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 2:37 PM
>>>   Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector pulseing ? Tracy ?
>>>
>>>
>>>   Easy one!  No.
>>>
>>>   Tracy
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>     From: Kelly Troyer
>>>     To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>>>     Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 12:57 PM
>>>     Subject: [FlyRotary] Injector pulseing ? Tracy ?
>>>
>>>
>>>     Tracy,
>>>         Do I have this correct ? The EC2 batch fires the injectors
>>> therefore all
>>> the injectors (if above
>>>     stageing MAP) pulse twice per eccentric shaft
>>> revolution.........Inquiring
>>> minds want to know !!
>>>
>>>
>>>     Thanks
>>>     --
>>>     Kelly Troyer
>>>     Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2
>>
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