X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.103] (HELO ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with ESMTP id 916993 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:03:24 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-025-165.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.25.165]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id k0802Q1w013928 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 19:02:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001301c613e6$d67b04b0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis Horsepower Chart Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 19:02:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C613BC.ED6E3540" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C613BC.ED6E3540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, Bobby, I really do not have even a wag at HP losses in the drive = train. However, I seriously doubt its on the order of 50 HP - that much = heat would fry the transmission {:>). Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bobby J. Hughes=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 6:11 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis Horsepower Chart Ed, This is the only chart I have seen that shows flywheel HP. I have seen = two or three rear wheel dyno charts that show between 190 and 204 hp. = These where with aftermarket exhausts and intake filter. The 204hp was = running a Mazdasport Interceptor ECU. This dyno chart did not show rpms = but showed MPH. I found one chart that showed peak hp at 178 at 7300 = rpms. This was a stock RX8 no mods at 500ft elevation. Racingbeat's test = show 8 hp improvement by removing the catalytic converter regardless of = muffler and 2 hp by improving the intake. So 204hp seems like a = reasonable number with modified exhaust, intake and an aftermarket ECU. = Any swags as what the HP loss is to rear wheels? Bobby (making cardboard intake) -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:23 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis Horsepower Chart Correct in what sense, Bobby? It looks similar to charts I saw early on by Mazda showing the output = of the Stock Renesis to be 250HP. The trouble began, when other folks = started putting the=20 Renesis on dynos and could not get that much power. Mazda later = revised its HP for the Renesis downward to the 235 HP level at 9000 rpm. = =20 Remember you can peak and tweak a dyno installation to get numbers = that you would not normally see in operational usage. Others out there = with real dyno experience can verify this. FWIW Ed=20 Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bobby J. Hughes=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Renesis Horsepower Chart Can anyone verify that this chart is correct or not?=20 Bobby -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C613BC.ED6E3540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, Bobby,  I really do not have even a wag = at HP=20 losses in the drive train.  However, I seriously doubt its on the = order of=20 50 HP - that much heat would fry the transmission {:>).
 
Ed
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bobby J. = Hughes=20
Sent: Saturday, January 07, = 2006 6:11=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Renesis=20 Horsepower Chart

Ed,
 
This is the only chart I have seen that shows = flywheel=20 HP. I have seen two or three rear wheel dyno charts that show between = 190 and=20 204 hp. These where with aftermarket exhausts and intake filter. The = 204hp was=20 running a Mazdasport Interceptor ECU. This dyno chart did not show = rpms but=20 showed MPH. I found one chart that showed peak hp at 178 at 7300 rpms. = This=20 was a stock RX8 no mods at 500ft elevation. Racingbeat's test = show  8 hp=20 improvement by removing the catalytic converter regardless of muffler = and 2 hp=20 by improving the intake. So 204hp seems like a reasonable=20 number with modified exhaust, intake and an aftermarket = ECU. =20  Any swags as what the HP loss is to rear = wheels?
 
Bobby
(making cardboard = intake)

From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:23 = PM
To: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis = Horsepower=20 Chart

Correct in what sense, Bobby?
 
It looks similar to charts I saw early on by = Mazda=20 showing the output of the Stock  Renesis to be 250HP.  The = trouble=20 began, when other folks started putting the
Renesis on dynos and could not get that much=20 power.  Mazda later revised its HP for the Renesis downward to = the 235 HP=20 level at 9000 rpm. 
 
Remember you can peak and tweak a dyno = installation to=20 get numbers that you would not normally see in operational = usage.  Others=20 out there with real dyno experience can verify this.
 
FWIW
 
Ed
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary = Powered
Matthews,=20 NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bobby = J. Hughes=20
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Friday, January 06, = 2006 2:35=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Renesis = Horsepower=20 Chart

Can anyone=20 verify that this chart is correct or not?
 
Bobby
 

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