X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.102] (HELO ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with ESMTP id 915279 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 08:42:47 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.102; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-025-165.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.25.165]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id k06DfwfW029430 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:41:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003301c612c6$fdb96c90$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Horsepower - 2 rotor vs 3 rotor Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:42:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Ken, my calculations indicate that a 2 rotor (13B) would need to turn approx 8800 RPM to produce 250 HP at sea level. Now if you use a turbocharger and run modest boost say around 5 psi you would still need to turn the engine around 7200 rpm to get 250 HP. Getting 250 HP in an automobile installation is much easier (you have gears) than getting 250 HP with a fixed pitch prop. Even Mazda has reduced their initial HP claims (250HP) on the Renesis to a more realistic 237 (and even that is at its max rpm nearly 9000). My personal opinion is that if I were going to put a rotary in an RV-10, I would go with the 3 rotor. You can get 250HP with a 3 rotor at less than 6000 rpm and none of the complexities of turbochargers and at that rpm the rotor is quite happy (loafing really). Yes, they are more expensive, but by the time you turbocharged a 2 rotor properly, you would have nearly the cost of a 3 rotor. My 0.02 worth on the subject Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Peck" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:59 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Horsepower - 2 rotor vs 3 rotor > Having read a bunch of stuff on this forum and other places, one question > still nags in the back of my mind. > > I'm building an RV-10, Vans recommends a Lycoming 540 producing 210 - 260 > HP. When considering the possibilities of a Mazda rotary, obviously the > ultra sexy choice is one of those 3 rotor 20b's. But in a recent post > Bill Dube pointed to a Renesis RX8 13b 6 port engine on e-bay where the > seller states 250HP. > > You know where I'm going.... > > Can a 13b built and configured to put out that HP in a RV-10 last, be > happy, etc.? > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ >