X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.193] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with ESMTPS id 864561 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 17:21:13 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.193; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d58-104-136-67.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [58.104.136.67]) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id jB5MKJpe031807 for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:20:23 +1100 Message-ID: <000f01c5f9ea$1737bf00$4388683a@george> From: "george lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Counterweight tester (was: Wrong flexplate, right counterweight) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 08:20:23 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Bill, I was going to ask for a photo - that would be great! George (down under) > I used a piece of 1" x 1" pine cove molding, 17" long. I drilled a > large hole in the center and small holes on either end to accommodate long > sheet metal screws. > > I oriented the wood to line up with the keyway and the center of > the counterweight (thick section) so the flywheel would also balance fore > and aft while the tip of the screw leveled it side-to-side. > > I lined up the center hole with the center hole in the flywheel > (by eye.) I then used two strips of duct tape (about equal length) to > attach the wood to the edges of the flywheel. > > When I was checking the automatic counterweight, I used the edge > of the bench to align the screw tip on the wood with the center of two of > the bolt holes. I then put the whole rig on the lawn mower blade balancer. > > There is probably a much more precise way of doing all this, but > this was simple and quick and seemed to be "good enough." > > I'll take a picture tonight if anyone is interested. > > At 11:50 PM 12/4/2005, you wrote: > > >Bill, > >I'm guessing > >1. the timber is firmly attached to the flywheel/flexplate at the opposite > >end of the > >scales or the centre ( centre would be better). > >2. That the timber itself (with screws) was balanced e.g equi-distance each > >side of the flywheel etc. > >3. That the timber went through the centre of the heaviest section of the > >flywheel/flexplate (counter weight), which was closest to the scales. > > > >Mind you I had to read it a couple of times, but it's a good idea when > >changing form manual to auto flexplate to check for this. > > > >I think I will rig something up to check for myself - thanks for the tip!! > > > >George ( down under) > > > > > I bought an RX-8 counterweight and at the same time I bought a '86 to '91 > > > flexplate. (I thought.) Apparently, I have an RX-8 flexplate instead. > > > > > > Thus, if anyone has a spare flexplate that will fit the RD-1C at a > > > reasonable price, I'd appreciate it. > > > > > > >>>> Simple way to measure the moment of the flywheel and counterweight > ><<< > > > > > > Since the flexplate was wrong, and there are no numbers on any of the > > > parts, I wanted to make sure I had the correct counterweight. > > > > > > I figured out a simple way to determine if I have the correct > > > counterweight. I bought a lawnmower blade balancer at the corner hardware > > > store. (It is a plastic cone on a spindle.) I put the manual flywheel from > > > my RX-8 engine on the balancer. I put a laboratory scale next to the > > > flywheel. I put a small spirit level on the flywheel center. Using a strip > > > of wood with a pair of screws in it, (one just for balance) I leveled the > > > flywheel by touching the scale with the tip of one of the screws. I > >twisted > > > the screw in and out until the flywheel was perfectly level. The scale > >read > > > 5.9 oz, and the screw was 8.5 inches from the center of the flywheel. > >Thus, > > > the counterweight built into the flywheel had a moment of 50 in-oz. > > > > > > I then set up the auto counter weight the same way. I got 5.76 oz. With > > > the 8.5 inch distance to center, this worked out to 49 in-oz. Considering > > > the crudeness of the measurement set-up, these numbers are the "same." > > > Thus, I have the correct counterweight. > > > > > > It looks like they sent me a "matching" RX-8 counterweight and flexplate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Dube > > > http://www.killacycle.com/Lights.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > Bill Dube > http://www.killacycle.com/Lights.htm > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ >