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To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Tracy's RD-1C measurements.
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:11:19 -0500
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Ernest,

I think you are wrong.....
I have Outlook Express as well and never had any problems with it.
I did have a lot of trouble though with ISP, wrongly configured firewalls,
etc...

I understand peoples dislike of MS products, but Outlook Express has
probably nothing to do with this problem.
Go for Thunderbird, gmail ( great system, I hope they keep it running!!) or
whatever, but I bet you if it doesn't work with OE you have the bug
somewhere in the system anyway...
Thomas J.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ernest Christley" <echristley@nc.rr.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 8:47 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tracy's RD-1C measurements.


> bbradburry@allvantage.com wrote:
>
> >Which brings up another question.  Does anyone have an idea what is
causing
> >this problem?  I am using Outlook Express.
> >
>
> You just answered your own question. Try Thunderbird.  It's free.
>
> >I do not have anyone blocked.  I
> >get msgs from Laura fine.  Also anyone else.  Tracy has sent several and
> >only two have arrived.  Apparently they are not bouncing back to Tracy.
At
> >least he (or Laura) has not mentioned it.
> >
> Email is a bear, mostly for historical reasons.  The first really
> popular implementation over the internet was called SMTP (simple mail
> trasport protocol, and it is anything but).  When you send an email, it
> doesn't go to the person you sent it to.  It goes to your mail server
> (smtp-server.nc.rr.com, in my case).  Your mail server looks at the
> message header, and uses that to decide where it should go...which may
> be the recipients server, or an intermediate server.  If any of those
> computers are slightly misconfigured, weired things will happen.  The
> canonical implementation of SMTP, sendmail, is notoriously difficult to
> configure.
>
> My comment about Outlook Express.  Microsoft has historically extended
> and manipulated industry standards to try to provide themselves and
> advantage...usually by breaking the standard where it interfaces with
> non-Microsoft platforms.  The internet, by design, is made up of a lot
> of interfaces between a lot of different types of platforms. Outlook
> Express is known to ignore some header fields, and has added others.  I
> know that the 'threading' header in particular has been munged, so that
> you can't carry on a conversation and have it sorted by thread.  Unless
> you have a pressing need for Outlook Express, I really do suggest
> Thunderbird or any other email client that actually tries to play nice
> with the rest of the world.
>
> -- 
> This is by far the hardest lesson about freedom. It goes against
> instinct, and morality, to just sit back and watch people make
> mistakes. We want to help them, which means control them and their
> decisions, but in doing so we actually hurt them (and ourselves)."
>
>
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