X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.103] (HELO ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with ESMTP id 863181 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 04 Dec 2005 20:47:56 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from [192.168.0.253] (cpe-066-057-036-199.nc.res.rr.com [66.57.36.199]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jB51l91u028268 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 20:47:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43939C1D.2080003@nc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 20:47:09 -0500 From: Ernest Christley User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2-6 (X11/20050513) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Tracy's RD-1C measurements. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine bbradburry@allvantage.com wrote: >Which brings up another question. Does anyone have an idea what is causing >this problem? I am using Outlook Express. > You just answered your own question. Try Thunderbird. It's free. >I do not have anyone blocked. I >get msgs from Laura fine. Also anyone else. Tracy has sent several and >only two have arrived. Apparently they are not bouncing back to Tracy. At >least he (or Laura) has not mentioned it. > Email is a bear, mostly for historical reasons. The first really popular implementation over the internet was called SMTP (simple mail trasport protocol, and it is anything but). When you send an email, it doesn't go to the person you sent it to. It goes to your mail server (smtp-server.nc.rr.com, in my case). Your mail server looks at the message header, and uses that to decide where it should go...which may be the recipients server, or an intermediate server. If any of those computers are slightly misconfigured, weired things will happen. The canonical implementation of SMTP, sendmail, is notoriously difficult to configure. My comment about Outlook Express. Microsoft has historically extended and manipulated industry standards to try to provide themselves and advantage...usually by breaking the standard where it interfaces with non-Microsoft platforms. The internet, by design, is made up of a lot of interfaces between a lot of different types of platforms. Outlook Express is known to ignore some header fields, and has added others. I know that the 'threading' header in particular has been munged, so that you can't carry on a conversation and have it sorted by thread. Unless you have a pressing need for Outlook Express, I really do suggest Thunderbird or any other email client that actually tries to play nice with the rest of the world. -- This is by far the hardest lesson about freedom. It goes against instinct, and morality, to just sit back and watch people make mistakes. We want to help them, which means control them and their decisions, but in doing so we actually hurt them (and ourselves)."