X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web30110.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.83] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with SMTP id 862449 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:26:20 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.200.83; envelope-from=prvt_pilot@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 68060 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Dec 2005 03:25:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cQ8lAHQeFUolyXusxuPiO7tqgtBueUQOWkyDotZ1jL7SOhS58b+0wzbT0YCcJhaSZ6i3ACDfUjcH0eHceExfxHPmfBoJ4K4lP3YgD2lCx/AM1Qj5NvAP1xOYtM6Ah4/OBKsuRyOHsWh0QIHRThHTz+gZDeLacE7rlo2kl2TE6Vw= ; Message-ID: <20051204032526.68058.qmail@web30110.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.135.33.54] by web30110.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 19:25:26 PST Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 19:25:26 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Brooks Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Intersting flight To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dave, I did do the aviate as I was trained to do, but I definitely need to be better rehearsed on emergency procedures. On my first flight, I was prepared for anything that I could foresee going wrong. Now with not previous serious problems, I've gotten a little complacent, and need to readdress some processes I think. Steve --- David Leonard wrote: > Steve, > > Glad you and the plane are in one piece. You and Ed > illustrate the first > rule of troubleshooting, that Tracy has tried to > instill in us - don't > think, but follow a fixed engine-out routine that > you practice in your head > often. Ed just pushed that relay without thinking - > as force of habit, > didn't hurt anything. Earlier he tried to out-think > his routine and failed > to switch tanks when that would have solved his > problem. My primary flight > instructor drilled it into me too: aviate, > navigate(brief), > communicate(brief), fuel selector, circuit breakers, > master switch, > mags, mixture rich, carb heat on. In the C150 it > flows in a fixed "T" from > memory. Then you can allow yourself to think if > time permits. > > Of course, I would probably try to outsmart myself > if I ever had an engine > out - so thanks to you and Ed and Tracy for > reminding me to practice that > routine! :-) > > Great job with the most important part - aviate!!! > > Dave Leonard > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html > http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html > > On 12/3/05, Ed Anderson > wrote: > > > > Hi Steve > > > > Very glad to hear you and aircraft got back on the > ground safely. Yes, > > events like those really do use up seat cushions - > don't they. Glad you > > found the problem - amazing how little things like > adding tie wraps can > > cause such an exciting "adventure". > > > > I too have a "Live Man" switch, actually a circuit > breaker (normally open) > > that when I push it in by-passes power around all > switches to the critical > > systems (fuel and spark). I aborted a take-off > from a 2200 ft runway > > (after getting airborne) when the engine began to > surge. Only thing I did > > have time to do (which in hind sight was a waste > of effort) was too push > > in > > the circuit breaker. Of course, the odds of a > surging engine being caused > > by a electrical problem is low - turned out it was > the fuel map set too > > low > > for the higher engine rpms (this was when I was > using an HALTECH EFI which > > you had to tune with laptop). > > > > But, a good idea in my opinion since often use > switches could possibly > > fail. > > > > In any case, sounds like all the thought processes > regarding what to do > > were > > well done Land long and land hot if you have too > - far better to go off > > the > > far end doing 20 mph than end up short on distance > or airspeed - my > > opinion, > > of course. > > > > Ed A > > > > > > > > > -- >