Return-Path: Received: from smtp3.netdoor.com ([208.137.128.157] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.3) with ESMTP-TLS id 2565305 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 02 Sep 2003 21:42:43 -0400 Received: from netdoor.com (port1003.jxn.netdoor.com [208.148.210.103]) by smtp3.netdoor.com (8.12.9/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h831gcKU007195 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 20:42:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F554707.10304@netdoor.com> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:42:31 -0500 From: Charlie & Tupper England Reply-To: cengland@netdoor.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] and another one fly's.... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.31 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Haywire wrote: > Hi Guy's > 13:32 PST another rotary climbed into the air, 3 years and a month > after construction started. It was worth every single sacrifice. I > made an attempt to record flight data, but was kinda excited to do a > good job of it, and now I'm enjoying a couple of beers, but I'll give > an outline of events and post better data after more flights. > First flight only lasted 18 minutes, as we could faintly smell oil > burning, so returned for inspection. On removal of cowl we found that > the oil injection lines had melted off of their attachment to the > metering pump. Even though I felt it was unlikely we speculated that > heat from the exhaust may have caused it. So I replaced these and > sleeved them with Hi-temp 3/8 hose. The second flight was supposed to > be a short hop just to test this but as everything was working we > continued on. This lasted 42 minutes. Upon inspection after landing we > discovered the protective sleeve burned but this showed me the source > of the heat appears to be the turbo manifold gasket seems to be > leaking, directing a stream of hot exhaust gases. As it was too warm > to investigate further we decided to call it a day and get some beer. > Tomorrow I'll remove the turbo and exhaust and investigate further. I > just hope that the manifold hasn't cracked. > Temps on climb out peaked at 98C (208F) for the coolant and 95C > (203F) for the oil. I was running the EWP on bypass from the > controller, meaning it would just run at a full 12v supply > continuously. This caused me an anxious moment when on descent on the > first flight, as it suddenly dropped of below the bottom of the scale > and pressure dropped from 20psi to 5psi. I thought we'd sprung a leak > but as soon as we landed and began to taxi temps climbed back to 80C. > I guess I'll have to start trusting the electronic temp controller to > maintain temps. > I'm experiencing similar disappointment as Rusty in my climb > speeds. However on the second flight we used the GPS to do a few runs > to check the airspeed we found that it reads 15-20 mph slow. This > meant we were climbing at too high of an airspeed. Even when we > adjusted for this is was still disappointing. I feel that a big part > over the problem may be that I'm over-propped. I'm currently using a > 76" 3-blade IVO prop, which may need to be shortened. I've got allot > of testing to do before I shorten it however. I have heard all the > good and bad reports on the IVO prop, so I was already aware that it > may not be ideal or may be perfect, but decided that I'd like to find > out for myself. > I have to commend my test pilot Ron, who took care of most of the > flying duties while I closely watched the engine (he let me have a few > minutes of stick time on each flight). The airframe handled > beautifully, flies like a dream. It required a little left rudder on > take-off, no rudder at all at 130-160mph and a little right rudder > above 160. Both landings were perfect greasers, so I guess tomorrow > I'll have to do landing just to test the gear :-) > It was a pretty successful day with a few snags to be dealt with, > but damn it feels great..... WhaaaaHooooooo > > S. Todd Bartrim > Turbo 13B RV-9Endurance > C-FSTB > http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm > Way to go, Todd! Suggestion on the prop (ran one on a Lyc RV-4 for a short time): If you are comfortable with running that large a diameter, try running it as a two blade before cutting it down. I'll bet that the 2 blade magnum will absorb most of what you can feed it; it just won't be super efficient at high speeds. The 2nd one I tried on a 160 hp RV-4 was 76" dia, 2 blades & it climbed like a banshee. Just be prepared for that brick wall as you look for top speed numbers. Charlie