Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #2769
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] and another one fly's....
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 07:02:30 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Congratulations, Todd!  Glad you discovered the exhaust gasket leak quickly and before anything was seriously damaged.  Don't know about the IVO, but one thing I found out was that all of Van's performance figures are for Constant Speed Props.  Like for my RV-6A, his best rate of climb airspeed is listed as somewhere around 90 MPH, however, with a fixed pitch cruise prop, the best rate of climb airspeed is closer to 120 MPH.  I really felt like I had a dog initially as at 90 mph I was only getting around 700-800 fpm, but once I went to 120 MPH for best climb, rate of climb went up to 1200-1400 fpm.
 
Your temps seem quite good for a first flight. My prop is 68 x 72 two blade wooden, so your 76" diameter prop (with three blades) sounds like a bit much.  But of course, you can adjust the pitch to compensate somewhat for the greater prop diameter's load.
 
Again, heartest congratulations on your new bird
 
Best Regards
 
Ed Anderson
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Haywire
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 2:43 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] and another one fly's....

Hi Guy's
    13:32 PST another rotary climbed into the air, 3 years and a month after construction started. It was worth every single sacrifice. I made an attempt to record flight data, but was kinda excited to do a good job of it, and now I'm enjoying a couple of beers, but I'll give an outline of events and post better data after more flights.
    First flight only lasted 18 minutes, as we could faintly smell oil burning, so returned for inspection. On removal of cowl we found that the oil injection lines had melted off of their attachment to the metering pump. Even though I felt it was unlikely we speculated that heat from the exhaust may have caused it. So I replaced these and sleeved them with Hi-temp 3/8 hose. The second flight was supposed to be a short hop just to test this but as everything was working we continued on. This lasted 42 minutes. Upon inspection after landing we discovered the protective sleeve burned but this showed me the source of the heat appears to be the turbo manifold gasket seems to be leaking, directing a stream of hot exhaust gases. As it was too warm to investigate further we decided to call it a day and get some beer. Tomorrow I'll remove the turbo and exhaust and investigate further. I just hope that the manifold hasn't cracked.
    Temps on climb out peaked at 98C (208F) for the coolant and 95C (203F) for the oil. I was running the EWP on bypass from the controller, meaning it would just run at a full 12v supply continuously. This caused me an anxious moment when on descent on the first flight, as it suddenly dropped of below the bottom of the scale and pressure dropped from 20psi to 5psi. I thought we'd sprung a leak but as soon as we landed and began to taxi temps climbed back to 80C. I guess I'll have to start trusting the electronic temp controller to maintain temps.
    I'm experiencing similar disappointment as Rusty in my climb speeds. However on the second flight we used the GPS to do a few runs to check the airspeed we found that it reads 15-20 mph slow. This meant we were climbing at too high of an airspeed. Even when we adjusted for this is was still disappointing. I feel that a big part over the problem may be that I'm over-propped. I'm currently using a  76" 3-blade IVO prop, which may need to be shortened. I've got allot of testing to do before I shorten it however. I have heard all the good and bad reports on the IVO prop, so I was already aware that it may not be ideal or may be perfect, but decided that I'd like to find out for myself.
    I have to commend my test pilot Ron, who took care of most of the flying duties while I closely watched the engine (he let me have a few minutes of stick time on each flight). The airframe handled beautifully, flies like a dream. It required a little left rudder on take-off, no rudder at all at 130-160mph and a little right rudder above 160. Both landings were perfect greasers, so I guess tomorrow I'll have to do landing just to test the gear :-)
    It was a pretty successful day with a few snags to be dealt with, but damn it feels great.....   WhaaaaHooooooo

S. Todd Bartrim 
Turbo 13B RV-9Endurance
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm

   "Whatever you vividly imagine, Ardently desire, Sincerely believe in, Enthusiastically act upon, Must inevitably come to pass".

 
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