Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #2727
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: MSD injector test results
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:21:32 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Message
Be happy to, I won't be able to do it until Saturday, but will be out at the airport then.  However, I would suggest that we use the default MAP setting that Tracy ships the unit with.  I keep my "B" controller set at his default. The reason is - I can have my manual mixture control index postioned at where ever I want  - by adjusting the program value.  If optimum finds my manual knob set at 10:00 then I lean the program setting until I get optium at 12:00.  If at 2:00 then I enrichen the program MAP until I can set the manual knob to 12:00 
 
I normally program the controller such that my arrow on my manuel mixture control points at 12:00.
I am using the stock 460 cc/min low impedance Mazda Injectors
 
Ed
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Al Gietzen
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 2:35 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: MSD injector test results

If you guys (Ed and Al) don't mind, I'd like to propose a test.  At your convenience, and I'm not kidding- don't make any special trips, or go to any real effort.  Could each of you run at low power, below the staging point, maybe 1500 rpm, and enable only one set of injectors at a time.  I'd be interested to see what position on the mixture knob you have to use for each set.  On mine, I have to turn the mixture knob to about 9:00 for the Mazda 550's, and about 3:00 for the MSD's.   

 

The test will be interesting, since (as I recall) Al has Mazda 550's as primaries, and also has the same MSD's that flow about 500 as secondaries.  I can't recall if I've ever seen the physical layout of these though.  Are they all the same distance from the rotors?

 

 

Sorry, it will be months yet until my engine runs again.  It ran on the dyno, now waiting to run on the airplane.

 

RC Engineering measured 570 cc/min on my Mazda injectors that I used as primaries.  I have no measurements on the MSD 2013s.  You can see on the attached photo the 570s are in the rotor housings and the 2013s are out in the TB.  

 

I’m not surprised at your mixture knob settings.  Mine were even more extreme.  I don’t recall ever running on the MSDs only below the staging point.  For the 570s I had to turn the mixture knob as far as it would go to get enough correction at idle, and then it may still have been a bit rich.  But I was running with a constant pressure fuel regulator at 40 psi.

 

I’ve changed to a MAP referenced regulator, and I’m planning on switching the wiring to run the MSDs as the primaries (if my wiring harness allows; I have completely separate wiring to the two sets coming from different sides).

 

BTW; a plug for TWM Induction.  I returned my constant pressure regulator and they very promptly swapped my old fittings into a new MAP referenced body and returned it to me – NO charge.  A bright spot in my day.

 

Al

 


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