Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #27051
From: Jim Sower <canarder@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] flyrotary Displacement
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:18:33 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Now THAT's what I've been waiting to hear.  Makes PERFECT sense, covers ALL the bases, explains CLEARLY which parameters the defenders of all the various positions are manipulating and gives insights into why.

Glad you got excommunicated.  Welcome aboard - sorry I'm so late ... Jim S.

Monty Roberts wrote:
Well guys here you all go getting tangled up in you analytical undies.
 
I keep trying to tell you to stop getting confused about the hardware and just pretend it does not even exist.
 
A fixed amount of air and fuel goes in.
 
It is compressed.
 
It is ignited.
 
It is expanded
 
It is exhausted
 
 
Now the question is for this one packet what is the maximum amount that can be ingested at atmospheric pressure.
 
.65 liters per chamber.
 
what constitutes a chamber?
 
A rotor face.
 
How many are there?
 
How long does it take to run all the little packets through one complete cycle?
 
The true thermodynamic eqivalent is a 3.9L 6 cyl motor spining at 1/3 eshaft speed.
 
You may choose a 1.3 L 6 cylinder spining 3 times as fast if you like and get the same numbers.
 
You may also choose a 2.6 L spining 2/3 as fast
 
Or you may play any game of two cycle four cycle six cycle etc.
 
Or you could just make up some arbitrary way to make the numbers work out.
 
You could also say that 302 cubic inch engine is actually a 604 cubic inch engine if spun twice as fast and choose to calculate displacement via the cam drive.
 
The point is the only thing that matters when comparing oranges and oranges is that one little chamber or single cylinder. Not half a cylinder or 2/3 of cylinder or chamber.
 
The working fluid is the key-not the hardware.....I promise.
 
 
I still maintain that it doesn't make a hill of beans of difference. The mental exercise beats watching Oprah, however.
 
 
Monty
 
 
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