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From: Bob White <bob@bob-white.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ignition Coil Connectors
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Hi Ken,

This is from a picture I found on the web.  Does it look like your
harness would plug into this connector?

Bob W.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:58:19 +0000
kenpowell@comcast.net wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> I was originally going to go with the truck coils but got a deal on the Vette coils and harness.  So, I have the wiring harness (actually, 1/2 a harness) which conists of 4 coil connectors attached to the wiring harness and the big connector for the entire harness.  This harness came off a '00 Silverado with the 5.3 V8 and should fit all coils off the 4.8, 5.3, and 6.0 V8's.  The connectors are grey with a light blue insulator bellows; the wires disappear into an orange piece on the back of the connector and the connecotor is 17.7MM across the plug where it plugs into the coil.  I beleive that this fits the D581 coils but can't be sure since I never actually bought the coils.  Asking $35.00 + shipping.  If it doesn't fit your coils I'll return your money.
> 
> Ken Powell 
> Bryant, Arkansas 
> 501-847-4721 
> C150 / RV-4 under construction
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> 
> > 
> > I've been trying George, but so far I haven't gotten any information on 
> > what connector might fit. The D581 is smaller, from the photos it 
> > looks like it mounts to a flat surface, and it costs less. The only 
> > advantage I see to the D580 is I know what connector fits. :) 
> > 
> > I did find the following information from a Google search. On June 13, 
> > 2004, Mark told Ed A. that the connector he was using with his D581 
> > coils was GM p/n 12126487 or AC/Delco PT757, but it needed to be 
> > modified slightly to work. GM Parts Direct wants $21 for the 
> > connector. Unless we can figure out what connector that is, it makes 
> > the total cost for the D581 coil and connector about $46, and for the 
> > D580 $36. -- Thanks Mark 
> > 
> > Bob W. 
> > 
> > On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:52:22 +1000 
> > "George Lendich" wrote: 
> > 
> > > Thanks Bob, I needed that information. 
> > > I would prefer the coil D581 truck type, could you advise if you can source 
> > > the connectors please. 
> > > George 
> > > 
> > > > Hi George, 
> > > > 
> > > > The LS-1 coil has internal electronics so that it only needs a logic 
> > > > signal to trigger it. It's also called an igniter. All 4 leads are 
> > > > used. 
> > > > 
> > > > Signal GND (EC2) 
> > > > Engine GND 
> > > > 12 V 
> > > > Trigger 
> > > > 
> > > > Bob W. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:23:44 +1000 
> > > > "George Lendich" wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > > Mark, 
> > > > > Good suggestions, never thought of that. 
> > > > > I went to a auto supply specialist the other day and he told me that the 
> > > wiring is only + ve and - ve ( two wires) and in fact some coils ( in 
> > > Australia) have non-plug type connections ( thread and lock nut). 
> > > > > Does Tracy use the LS 1 coils for any particular reason i.e.because 
> > > there much lighter or something like that. I'm led to believe they are very 
> > > reliable and they don't stock them because there is little to no demand for 
> > > non-genuine replacement - so that's good info. They are found in the GM V8 
> > > here in Australia but the cost is about $150 from GMH ( your GMC) 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also can someone explain the wiring of the injectors, I didn't ask about 
> > > that. 
> > > > > George ( down under) 
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: Mark R Steitle 
> > > > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft 
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:30 PM 
> > > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ignition Coil Connectors 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Joe & Dale, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Just a bit of caution here. I'm using the D581 (Chevy pickkup 
> > > version) coils. I ordered what looked to be the correct connectors, only to 
> > > find out that they had an indexing lug that prevented them from mating with 
> > > the coils. I trimmed the indexing lug off and used them anyway as there is 
> > > a lock that prevents them from being inserted 180* out. Just be sure you 
> > > check it very carefully. Connectors cost as much as the coils. Go figure! 
> > > You can always do what Tracy did and solder wires to the pins on the coils, 
> > > then pot the plug hole. Then use one large connector on the whole bundle. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Mark S. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> > > ---- 
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] 
> > > On Behalf Of Kelly Troyer 
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:40 AM 
> > > > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft 
> > > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ignition Coil Connectors 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Joe and Dale, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Correct numbers are D580 and D581........Electrically the 
> > > same.......D581 is slightly 
> > > > > 
> > > > > smaller and has plug and elect. connector opposite ends.......D580 has 
> > > both plug and 
> > > > > 
> > > > > elect. connector on same end.........Bob White is trying to source 
> > > connectors for the 
> > > > > 
> > > > > D581.......He has connectors for D580 now........ 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Kelly Troyer 
> > > > > Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -------------- Original message from Dale Rogers 
> > > : -------------- 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Joe, 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Why did you choose the D851? I thought that the "standard" 
> > > > > > was the D580 (AKA: GM # 12558948). 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Dale R. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > From: Joe Ewen 
> > > > > > > Date: 2005/09/11 Sun PM 10:43:17 EDT 
> > > > > > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" 
> > > > > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Ignition Coil Connectors 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Does anyone know a source and or part number on connectors that 
> > > will fit the 
> > > > > > Delco D851 coils. I tried the Waytek parts called out on the Wiki, 
> > > but they do 
> > > > > > not fit the D851. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks, 
> > > > > > > Joe 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -- 
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> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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