X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c1) with ESMTP id 682705 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:22:03 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.167; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.71]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93CC3583DB for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167]) by filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03114-06-100 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (70-98-143-148.dsl1.csv.tn.frontiernet.net [70.98.143.148]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37669358333 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <430F2555.5080603@frontiernet.net> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:21:09 -0500 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Flamible brake fluid References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0534-4, 08/26/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.2 (20050629) at filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net How much heat would these Porsche rotors dissipate? What's a Porsche weigh? 1500 lb? How much energy would that rotor have to absorb (and LATER dissipate) on a typical high performance afternoon? If the ceramic coating insulates the disk itself (which it must since the disk is Al which melts at about 900 F) then all that heat must be absorbed by the puck, piston, caliper and fluid. Doable if you're dealing with a 1500 lb [relatively] slow moving vehicle. Still wondering' why Boeing doesn't use them? Boeing does the math ... Jim S. Ernest Christley wrote: > Lehanover@aol.com wrote: > >> *Years ago, at a car show, I picked up a Porsche brake rotor that was >> made of aluminum and ceramic foam. It was chained to the table with a >> foot or so of aluminum chain. The people would pick up the 12 pound >> iron version, and put it down. Then the foam version would suprise >> them to the extent that without the chain, the rotor would have gone >> over their heads. Light like balsa wood. I watched hundreds of people >> do that test and squeal like little kids.* >> *Picking up the light version again and again in disbeliefe.* >> ** *Lynn E. Hanover* >> ** ** > > > I can just picture hundreds of big, burly race car type guys standing > around squealling like little kids over some newfound toy. I would've > stood there watching, too. (Might even have squealled once or twice > myself 8*) > > The brake rotor on the set of Goodyears I have is a fairly thin disk. > Weighs a couple...three pounds, at most. Would the material your > referring to be cost effective compared to a disk of die cut steel > (assuming BOTH parts get their prices jacked up because they suddently > become 'aircraft' quality)? Would it be as durable? (assuming the > steel stands up well to chips from gravel and such) >