Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #23374
From: Bob Perkinson <bobperk@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: coolant leak
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:01:28 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Tracy,
You mentioned the wall failure, I think that is fairly common in the earlier model 13B's, I have one.  When the engine was opened up this is what I found (picture attached) Hopefully Ed problem will be something a lot simpler.
 

Bob Perkinson

Trying to keep foot away from mouth
 


 
Yes they are. 
 
 I know about Ed's remark about them looking too small but we've sold over a thousand of these O-ring kits and never had a problem there.  A LOT of work went into specifying and sourcing them.  They are custom rings designed specifically for this application, not McMaster Carr parts.  The McMaster TES rings are close but slightly too large (diameter) when at the high end of spec.  They caused O-ring wall failure in several engines.
 
Tracy (love the Mazda SUV - Zoom - Zoom!)

Are these TES o-rings? 

 

Mark S.

 


 

Take a look at the picture of the month on Tracy's web site.  That is a picture of the coolant spouting from Ed's engine when it was dead cold.  When he lifted the pressure relief lever on the coolant cap, it pressurized the overflow tank.  He knew then that there might be a problem.  His First thought was that the diameter of the O ring's that came in the overhaul kit  might have been a little small.  I guess we will hear exactly what the problem was when he gets the engine open.

 

Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
RV9A N658RP Reserved
If nothing changes
Nothing changes
 


 

Since Ed is having to remove and disassemble the engine, I would guess it’s the coolant o-rings.  It will be interesting to hear how he discovered the leak.  For the benefit of the newbies on the group, we typically monitor coolant pressure for signs of leaks.  I’ve also installed a coolant level sensor in my purge tank that should provide an advance warning of low coolant level. 

 

Mark S.

 


 

If you guys can humor me, what's the nature of that coolant leak? Is that the cover that tends to gradually degrade? Is there any chance to sense that failure before it gets significant? Like, do you experience fluid level change gradually? Pressure change? How bout Post shut down change in pressure? Know what I mean? Time vs pressure after shutdown?

 

Clueless al

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:31:39 -0400 "jesse farr" <jesse@jessfarr.com> writes:

----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy Crook

 

HI everybody  - this is Laura Crook.  I am sure you've all heard that Ed Anderson had another "event" - this time in LA while visiting family.  He actually has two issues - one is the his brakes caught on fire  -not rotary related Smiley emoticon and the  other is that he has an internal coolant leak.  So.... he has to remove and overhaul the engine again.

 

Since he is not near home he has no access to his documentation.  He wrote to me and asked me to post a notice to the list regarding the overhaul notes that he developed and posted to his newsgroup a few months ago.  He thinks that a few people down loaded it and one may even be in .pdf format.

 

He REALLY needs somebody to email a copy of his overhaul notes to the following email address:

 

 


-al wick
Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru 2.5
N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon
Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design info:
http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html

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