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From: "rijakits" <rijakits@cwpanama.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: rotary risks. MTBE and the gospel
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 19:45:21 -0500
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Nothing against Toyota or Honda (...hell I drive a nice 4-banger Turbodiesel
Toyota myself :)) ), BUT being on this list and your wife obviously not
yearning for some Toyota SUV, how could you possibly suggest anything but a
RX8???
Get her addicted to Rotary!!! :))

Thomas J.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Sower" <canarder@frontiernet.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:40 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rotary risks. MTBE and the gospel


> After all that crap, why would she go back to Volvo?
> It'd be a Toyota or Honda or something for me ... Jim S.
>
> Bobby J. Hughes wrote:
>
> >FWIW my wife's 2000 S80T Volvo shut it's self down once because of a
> >sensor problem. The REAL problem was the dealer said it needed (2) new
> >O2's, Gas pedal position sensor, and a TB sensor to fix the problem.
> >$2000 later it was running again. Two months later when a third O2 went
> >out she got a new Volvo.
> >
> >
> >Bobby
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
> >Behalf Of Ernest Christley
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:56 PM
> >To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> >Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rotary risks. MTBE and the gospel
> >
> >Ian Dewhirst wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>On the other hand I have
> >>never had an engine management system fail in one of my cars even
> >>though I must have driven a  million miles in cars that used them.  I
> >>work in an office these days, I asked my co-workers if their cars had
> >>ever stopped while driving for a reason other then running out of gas,
> >>or a dead battery, none had.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I have, Ian.  I drive a Dodge Dakota QuadCab.  GM used the engine
> >management for the Jeep Grande Cherokee in the Dakota, because it had
> >proven itself to be reliable over several years of service.  In the
> >Cherokee, I'm told, the computer was mounted low on the firewall.  In
> >the Dakota, it is high on the right hand wheel well.
> >
> >Hot day.  My plan is a 4 hour drive to the beach.  Stopped at a fast
> >food drive-thru to get a bite for the ride.  I get my food and start to
> >pull out.  The engine dies completely.  Battery still strong.  All the
> >accessories run.  Starter cranks the engine.  I would have assumed I was
> >out of gas if I hadn't just filled up earlier that day.  Luckily, the
> >restaurant was only 1/2 block behind my house, so I just walked home.
> >Later that evening, I decided to give it another try.  Walked back and
> >she cranked right up the first try.
> >
> >The problem was that the computer got heat soaked in the drive-thru and
> >went bonkers.  Turns out that GM was having a hard time of it, having to
> >replace a large number of computers with a beefed up resistor in there
> >somewhere.  Had to drive it like that for a few days, with it
> >periodically giving out if it got to hot (like at a stoplight.
> >Arrgh!!).  Got it running several times with a bag of dry ice.  Resorted
> >to carrying a 2-liter bottle of water, until the dealer could schedule
> >to fix it. (Bastards kept my truck for 3-days for what shouldn't have
> >taken more than 10min. to fix).
> >
> >Moral of the story:  Stuff happens.  So carry a bottle of water or some
> >dry ice when you fly.  You don't know when you'll need it, and it'll
> >keep the backup CAS company.
> >
> >
> >
>
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