Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com ([24.93.67.82] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1) with ESMTP id 2509673 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 08:31:49 -0400 Received: from o7y6b5 (clt78-221.carolina.rr.com [24.93.78.221]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with SMTP id h72CPI89019802 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 08:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006c01c358f3$3354d280$1702a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Oshkosh report Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 08:40:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0069_01C358D1.AC19FFA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C358D1.AC19FFA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [FlyRotary] Re: Oshkosh reportTom and the national staff of the EAA have = long ago sold out the soul of the EAA to commercial/big money interest. = Its reflected in the the Sport Aviation publication, the theme of Air = Venture and their attitude toward auto powered aircraft and now = apparently even toward the homebuilts. Let's face it EAA feels that = have now become "respectable" and certainly don't want to be associated = with the low-life experimenter.=20 I would not hesitate to cease my membership, except I do believe the EAA = serves a political function and protects our rights from the = politicans. Therefore, I will probably continue my membership for one = more year. The SSA might be a viable alternative, but they need to = overcome their current image of a somewhat backdated focus. =20 I believe the only way to possibly get the National EAAs attention is to = boycott Oskosh, - of course it isn't really Oskosh anymore, the name and = spirit of the gathering had been changed. I think if no - or only a few = homebuilts - showed up it would get their attention - no, on second = though that is probably exactly what they want {:>). I have sent e mails in the past to the national EAA headquarters, have = only received a reply to one and that one made it clear I was wasting my = time. But, perhaps if they received a number of e mails, it might get = their attention that they have a problem. Soooo happy, I did not go to Oskosh ...err. Air Venture as I would have = been hopping mad at our reception. I am interested in seeing how the = SERFI flyin this fall treats the auto engine guys, it looks promissing = at this point - but, we'll see. Sorry, it wasn't better for those of you who attended Air Venture. =20 Best Regards Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 8:12 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oshkosh report ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken Welter=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 2:01 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oshkosh report My membership just ran out and I am wandering whether I want to = renew it after Arlington. They stuck me and the rest of the auto conversions way out in BFE = with the certified plane camping section, they only had two rows for = RV's and only two rows for all other homebuilt planes and the rest of = the flight line was for war birds antiques and classics with C-172's and = Cherokees in the lineup. What the hell does EAA stand for. Ken Welter=20 Well, I just got home after 5 days camping with my experimental = plane on row 121 at OSH. I won't bore you with all the gory details, but I will say that it = will be a while before Tom & Company get any more of my money beyond my = membership dues. There was some talk among attendees of starting a new = organization (Homebuilt Aviation Association?) & having a separate = flyin. Speaking with some of the long-term volunteers at OSH, it seems = that Paul P. is more than a little disgusted with the direction his son = has taken the 'flyin'.=20 Since it's now obvious that EAA & Airventure can survive just fine = without experimental aviation, one thought was to approach the senior P. = about adding some younger blood to his SAA & attending his Frasca field = flyin next year instead of the 'AirVenture' Carnival. Those of you who = believe that changes are in order, please make your feelings known. Charlie flying RV-4; RV-7 in the workshop Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C358D1.AC19FFA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [FlyRotary] Re: Oshkosh report
Tom and the national staff of the EAA = have long ago=20 sold out the soul of the EAA to commercial/big money interest.  Its = reflected in the the Sport Aviation publication, the theme of Air = Venture and=20 their attitude toward auto powered aircraft and now apparently even = toward the=20 homebuilts.  Let's face it EAA feels that have now become = "respectable" and=20 certainly don't want to be associated with the low-life=20 experimenter. 
 
I would not hesitate to cease my = membership, except=20 I do believe the EAA  serves a political function and protects our = rights=20 from the politicans.  Therefore, I will probably continue my = membership for=20 one more year.  The SSA might be a viable alternative, but they = need to=20 overcome their current image of a somewhat backdated focus.  =
 
I believe the only way to possibly get = the National=20 EAAs attention is to boycott Oskosh, - of course it isn't really Oskosh = anymore,=20 the name and spirit of the gathering had been changed.  I think if = no - or=20 only a few homebuilts - showed up it would get their attention - no, on = second=20 though that is probably exactly what they want {:>).
 
I have sent e mails in the past to the = national EAA=20 headquarters, have only received a reply to one and that one made it = clear I was=20 wasting my time. But, perhaps if they received a number of e mails, it = might get=20 their attention that they have a problem.
 
Soooo happy, I did not go to Oskosh = ...err. =20 Air Venture as I would have been hopping mad at our reception.  I = am=20 interested in seeing how the SERFI flyin this fall treats the auto = engine guys,=20 it looks promissing at this point - but, we'll see.
 
Sorry, it wasn't better for those of = you who=20 attended Air Venture. 
 
 
Best Regards
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 = 8:12=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Oshkosh=20 report

 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken=20 Welter
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Saturday, August 02, = 2003 2:01=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Oshkosh=20 report

  My membership just ran out and I = am=20 wandering whether I want to renew it after Arlington.
 They stuck me and the rest of the = auto=20 conversions way out in BFE with the certified plane camping section, = they=20 only had two rows for RV's and only two rows for all other homebuilt = planes=20 and the rest of the flight line was for war birds antiques and = classics with=20 C-172's and Cherokees in the lineup.
 What the hell does EAA stand=20 for.
 
 Ken Welter 




Well,  I just got home = after 5 days=20 camping with my experimental plane on row 121 at OSH.

I = won't bore=20 you with all the gory details, but I will say that it will be a = while=20 before Tom & Company get any more of my money beyond my = membership=20 dues.  There was some talk among attendees of starting a new=20 organization (Homebuilt Aviation Association?) & having a = separate=20 flyin.  Speaking with some of the long-term volunteers at = OSH, it=20 seems that Paul P. is more than a little disgusted with the = direction his=20 son has taken the 'flyin'. 
Since it's now obvious that = EAA &=20 Airventure can survive just fine without experimental aviation, = one=20 thought was to approach the senior P. about adding some younger = blood to=20 his SAA & attending his Frasca field flyin next year instead = of the=20 'AirVenture'  Carnival. Those of you who believe that changes = are in=20 order, please make your feelings known.

Charlie
flying = RV-4;=20 RV-7 in the workshop

 Homepage: =20 http://www.flyrotary.com/
 Archive:  =20 = http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html

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