X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 989202 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 18:57:03 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.64; envelope-from=jerryhey@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=QYdHlmoQuSxyvVGnIklPhpsZwTyl+r5GE5W9qua9ghiFzAf+NSnPCypNMB2acYg9; h=Received:Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [65.176.161.162] (helo=earthlink.net) by smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dg9T7-0005W1-LM for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 18:56:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:58:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Remaining pressure when cold (Re: coolant leak) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jerry Hey To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-ELNK-Trace: 8104856d7830ec6b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79106e45b2534daefd61079a4f8e9d789e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.176.161.162 On Wednesday, June 8, 2005, at 04:51 PM, Bill Dube wrote: > >> >> I don't get it. What is wrong with the cooling system remaining >> pressurized? Mine does and always has. > > >>>> You have a copression leak if.... <<<< > > You have a compression leak into the cooling system. Residual > pressure is the classic symptom. (The next thing you will see are tiny > smoke-filled bubbles in the cooling water.) You are going to have the > tear the engine down to fix it. > > >>>> Why there is no residual pressure normally <<<< > > The very first time you fill the system, it is possible to > have some residual pressure when the system cools down. After that > first time, there should never be residual pressure. This is because > any vapor you create by heating will condense back to liquid when you > cool down again. Actually, the water expands and pushes some air out > of the system into the catch tank. When it cools back down, the water > contracts and draws a slight vacuum. This will suck water back in from > the catch tank. > > >>>> Why you might possibly have residual press the first time after > you change the coolant <<< > > The first time you heat up the water, you will drive out some > dissolved air. After you thermally cycle the water once, this > dissolved air is gone. Thus, you may possibly see a tiny pressure > remaining the first time, but never again. > > >>> Smoke-filled bubbles = compression leak into the cooling system <<< > > If the compression leak is severe, you can sometimes see > little smoke-filled bubbles in the coolant. Fill it to the top and > don't put the cap back on. Run it at idle and little smoke-filled > bubbles may be seen rising to the top. If you see these, you > definitely have a compression leak into the cooling jacket. > > You don't always see the smoke-filled bubbles, by the way. > > > Bill Dube' Thanks for the clear explanation Bill. All stuff I did not know but am very glad to have learned today. Jerry > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >