X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [64.4.51.76] (HELO hotmail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 988980 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 16:49:29 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.4.51.76; envelope-from=lors01@msn.com Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:48:43 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.51.220 by BAY107-DAV4.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:48:42 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [64.4.51.220] X-Originating-Email: [lors01@msn.com] X-Sender: lors01@msn.com From: "Tracy Crook" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: coolant leak Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:48:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C56C49.E749E800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:48:31 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2005 20:48:43.0179 (UTC) FILETIME=[7518D7B0:01C56C6B] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C56C49.E749E800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00F5_01C56C49.E749E800" ------=_NextPart_001_00F5_01C56C49.E749E800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There was a ton of warning signs of Ed's coolant sealing problems. A = biggie was pressure in the system after the engine cooled completely = down (like next day) The picture on my website (it's a boy!) shows the = clue. There were other signs as well but it is human nature to hope = that it was not the worst case possibility (Coolant O-ring problem). = But don't jump to conclusions yet, we still don't know what it was. Tracy (BMW had bad crank sensor) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark R Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: coolant leak Since Ed is having to remove and disassemble the engine, I would guess = it's the coolant o-rings. It will be interesting to hear how he = discovered the leak. For the benefit of the newbies on the group, we = typically monitor coolant pressure for signs of leaks. I've also = installed a coolant level sensor in my purge tank that should provide an = advance warning of low coolant level. =20 =20 Mark S. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of al p wick Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:04 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] coolant leak =20 If you guys can humor me, what's the nature of that coolant leak? Is = that the cover that tends to gradually degrade? Is there any chance to = sense that failure before it gets significant? Like, do you experience = fluid level change gradually? Pressure change? How bout Post shut down = change in pressure? Know what I mean? Time vs pressure after shutdown? =20 Clueless al =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:31:39 -0400 "jesse farr" = > writes: ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy = Crook=20 =20 HI everybody - this is Laura Crook. I am sure you've all heard = that Ed Anderson had another "event" - this time in LA while visiting = family. He actually has two issues - one is the his brakes caught on = fire -not rotary related and the other is that he has an internal = coolant leak. So.... he has to remove and overhaul the engine again.=20 =20 Since he is not near home he has no access to his documentation. = He wrote to me and asked me to post a notice to the list regarding the = overhaul notes that he developed and posted to his newsgroup a few = months ago. He thinks that a few people down loaded it and one may even = be in .pdf format. =20 He REALLY needs somebody to email a copy of his overhaul notes to = the following email address: =20 kinderbac@yahoo.com =20 -al wick Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru = 2.5 N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design = info: http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html ------=_NextPart_001_00F5_01C56C49.E749E800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There was a ton of warning signs of Ed's coolant sealing = problems.  A=20 biggie was pressure in the system after the engine cooled completely = down (like=20 next day) The picture on my website (it's a boy!) shows the clue.  = There=20 were other signs as well but it is human nature to hope that it was not = the=20 worst case possibility (Coolant O-ring problem).   But don't = jump to=20 conclusions yet, we still don't know what it was.
 
Tracy (BMW had bad crank sensor)
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark R Steitle =
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 = 8:32=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = coolant=20 leak

Since Ed is = having to=20 remove and disassemble the engine, I would guess it=92s the coolant=20 o-rings.  It will be interesting to hear how he discovered the=20 leak.  For the benefit of the newbies on the group, we typically = monitor=20 coolant pressure for signs of leaks.  I=92ve also installed a = coolant level=20 sensor in my purge tank that should provide an advance warning of low = coolant=20 level. 

 

Mark=20 S.

 

From: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of al p = wick
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 = 6:04=20 AM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 coolant leak

 

If you = guys can=20 humor me, what's the nature of that coolant leak? Is that the cover = that tends=20 to gradually degrade? Is there any chance to sense that failure before = it gets=20 significant? Like, do you experience fluid level change gradually? = Pressure=20 change? How bout Post shut down change in pressure? Know what I mean? = Time vs=20 pressure after shutdown?

 

Clueless = al

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, = 7 Jun 2005=20 22:31:39 -0400 "jesse farr" <jesse@jessfarr.com>=20 writes:

----- = Original=20 Message ----- From: Tracy = Crook=20

 

HI=20 everybody  - this is Laura Crook.  I am sure you've all = heard=20 that Ed Anderson had another "event" - this time in LA while = visiting=20 family.  He actually has two issues - one is the his brakes = caught on=20 fire  -not rotary related 3D"Smiley and the  other is = that he has=20 an internal coolant leak.  So.... he has to remove and = overhaul the=20 engine again.

 

Since he=20 is not near home he has no access to his documentation.  He = wrote to=20 me and asked me to post a notice to the list regarding the=20 overhaul notes that he developed and posted to his newsgroup = a few=20 months ago.  He thinks that a few people down loaded it and = one may=20 even be in .pdf format.

 

He REALLY=20 needs somebody to email a copy of his overhaul notes to the = following=20 email address:

 

kinderbac@yahoo.com=

 


-al=20 wick
Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock = Subaru=20 2.5
N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon
Prop construct, Subaru = install,=20 Risk assessment, Glass panel design=20 = info:
http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html

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