X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [216.52.245.18] (HELO ispwestemail2.mdeinc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 988357 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:56:01 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.52.245.18; envelope-from=wschertz@ispwest.com Received: from 7n7z201 (unverified [63.13.186.76]) by ispwestemail2.mdeinc.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.1.361.20) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:39:34 -0700 Message-ID: <006601c56c2f$7c54c480$6401a8c0@7n7z201> From: "William" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Tracy, EM-2 question Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:39:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0063_01C56C05.93261530" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C56C05.93261530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Mark, doesn't the temperature probe tend to block the oil flow = through the 'cool fitting'? Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark R Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 7:55 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tracy, EM-2 question Bill,=20 I drilled an extra hole in the oil filter adapter for an extra = pressure sensor. Using this cool fitting (see attachment), I added a = port to the front cover oil outlet for a temp sensor to enable me to = measure the delta T through the oil cooler (temporary arrangement). For = coolant, I drilled an extra port in the thermostat housing for the extra = coolant temp sensor. I chose not to add a second coolant pressure = sensor. The fuel pressure regulator had an unused port that I used = (with an adapter) for the extra fuel pressure sender, but I could have = just as easily used a tee. =20 Mark S. =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:36 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tracy, EM-2 question =20 =20 On 6/6/05, William wrote:=20 Mark, where did you put all the sensors? =20 Oil temp? Water pressure? etc. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark R Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tracy, EM-2 question =20 Bill, I should have consulted with Tracy before I went down this road = myself. Anyway, I just installed redundant senders for oil, coolant, = and fuel. Temp sensors are very lightweight. Pressure sensors are just = a tad heavier. I didn't get the extra data board on my EFIS, so EGT's & = CHT's are on the EM-2 only. Since the weight penalty of the EFIS-1 has = already been paid, I figured why not go with engine instrument = redundancy. The only one I'm not satisfied with is the engine RPM on = the EFIS-1. It doesn't agree with the RPM readout on the EM-2. Until = proven otherwise, I'm assuming the EM-2 figure is correct. Once I get = the prop installed and can run it without fear of overspeed, I can put a = prop tach on it and know for sure. Then I can calibrate the EFIS-1 = RPM's. Be sure to calibrate all sensors! =20 =20 Mark S. =20 =20 =20 BTW, I am using the Blumountain EFIS Lite G3 and Love it (despite its = continued minor issues).. I mean, that thing is awesome. --=20 Dave Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html http://members.aol.com/vp4skydoc/index.html=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C56C05.93261530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Mark, doesn't the temperature = probe tend to=20 block the oil flow through the 'cool fitting'?
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark R Steitle =
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 = 7:55=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tracy, = EM-2=20 question

Bill,=20

I drilled = an extra=20 hole in the oil filter adapter for an extra pressure sensor.  = Using this=20 cool fitting (see attachment), I added a port to the front cover oil = outlet=20 for a temp sensor to enable me to measure the delta T through the oil = cooler=20 (temporary arrangement).  For coolant, I drilled an extra port in = the=20 thermostat housing for the extra coolant temp sensor.  I chose = not to add=20 a second coolant pressure sensor.  The fuel pressure regulator = had an=20 unused port that I used (with an adapter) for the extra fuel pressure = sender,=20 but I could have just as easily used a = tee.

 

Mark = S. =20

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of David Leonard
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 = 10:36=20 PM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Tracy, EM-2=20 question

 

 

On 6/6/05, William <wschertz@ispwest.com>=20 wrote:

Mark,

where did you put all = the=20 sensors?

 

Oil temp? Water = pressure?=20 etc.

Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #=20 4045

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: Mark = R=20 Steitle

To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20

Sent: Monday,=20 June 06, 2005 2:11 PM

Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Tracy, EM-2=20 question


 

Bill,

I should = have=20 consulted with Tracy before I went down this = road=20 myself.  Anyway, I just installed redundant senders for oil, = coolant,=20 and fuel.  Temp sensors are very lightweight.  Pressure = sensors=20 are just a tad heavier.  I didn't get the extra data board on = my EFIS,=20 so EGT's & CHT's are on the EM-2 only.  Since the weight = penalty of=20 the EFIS-1 has already been paid, I figured why not go with engine=20 instrument redundancy.  The only one I'm not satisfied with is = the=20 engine RPM on the EFIS-1.  It doesn't agree with the RPM = readout on the=20 EM-2.  Until proven otherwise, I'm assuming the EM-2 figure is=20 correct.  Once I get the prop installed and can run it without = fear of=20 overspeed, I can put a prop tach on it and know for sure.  Then = I can=20 calibrate the EFIS-1 RPM's.  Be sure to calibrate all = sensors! =20

 

Mark = S. =20      

 

 

BTW, I am using the Blumountain EFIS Lite G3 = and Love=20 it (despite its continued minor issues)..  I mean, that thing is=20 awesome.

-- =
Dave Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6=20 N4VY
http://memb= ers.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html
http://members.aol.c= om/vp4skydoc/index.html=20

>>  Homepage: =20 http://www.flyrotary.com/
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