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From: Jim Sower <canarder@frontiernet.net>
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wise move :o)

Bobby J. Hughes wrote:

>That's what I said! She said something about the airplane parts in the
>garage so I shut up:)
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>Bobby 
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>From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
>Behalf Of Jim Sower
>Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:41 PM
>To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rotary risks. MTBE and the gospel
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>After all that crap, why would she go back to Volvo? 
>It'd be a Toyota or Honda or something for me ... Jim S.
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>Bobby J. Hughes wrote:
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>>FWIW my wife's 2000 S80T Volvo shut it's self down once because of a 
>>sensor problem. The REAL problem was the dealer said it needed (2) new 
>>O2's, Gas pedal position sensor, and a TB sensor to fix the problem.
>>$2000 later it was running again. Two months later when a third O2 went
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>>out she got a new Volvo.
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>>Bobby
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
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>>Behalf Of Ernest Christley
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:56 PM
>>To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rotary risks. MTBE and the gospel
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>>Ian Dewhirst wrote:
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>>>On the other hand I have
>>>never had an engine management system fail in one of my cars even 
>>>though I must have driven a  million miles in cars that used them.  I 
>>>work in an office these days, I asked my co-workers if their cars had 
>>>ever stopped while driving for a reason other then running out of gas,
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>>I have, Ian.  I drive a Dodge Dakota QuadCab.  GM used the engine 
>>management for the Jeep Grande Cherokee in the Dakota, because it had 
>>proven itself to be reliable over several years of service.  In the 
>>Cherokee, I'm told, the computer was mounted low on the firewall.  In 
>>the Dakota, it is high on the right hand wheel well.
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>>Hot day.  My plan is a 4 hour drive to the beach.  Stopped at a fast 
>>food drive-thru to get a bite for the ride.  I get my food and start to
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>>pull out.  The engine dies completely.  Battery still strong.  All the 
>>accessories run.  Starter cranks the engine.  I would have assumed I 
>>was out of gas if I hadn't just filled up earlier that day.  Luckily, 
>>the restaurant was only 1/2 block behind my house, so I just walked
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>>Later that evening, I decided to give it another try.  Walked back and 
>>she cranked right up the first try.
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>>The problem was that the computer got heat soaked in the drive-thru and
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>>went bonkers.  Turns out that GM was having a hard time of it, having 
>>to replace a large number of computers with a beefed up resistor in 
>>there somewhere.  Had to drive it like that for a few days, with it 
>>periodically giving out if it got to hot (like at a stoplight.
>>Arrgh!!).  Got it running several times with a bag of dry ice.  
>>Resorted to carrying a 2-liter bottle of water, until the dealer could 
>>schedule to fix it. (Bastards kept my truck for 3-days for what 
>>shouldn't have taken more than 10min. to fix).
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>>Moral of the story:  Stuff happens.  So carry a bottle of water or some
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>>dry ice when you fly.  You don't know when you'll need it, and it'll 
>>keep the backup CAS company.
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