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After all that crap, why would she go back to Volvo? 
It'd be a Toyota or Honda or something for me ... Jim S.

Bobby J. Hughes wrote:

>FWIW my wife's 2000 S80T Volvo shut it's self down once because of a
>sensor problem. The REAL problem was the dealer said it needed (2) new
>O2's, Gas pedal position sensor, and a TB sensor to fix the problem.
>$2000 later it was running again. Two months later when a third O2 went
>out she got a new Volvo. 
>
>
>Bobby
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
>Behalf Of Ernest Christley
>Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:56 PM
>To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rotary risks. MTBE and the gospel
>
>Ian Dewhirst wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On the other hand I have
>>never had an engine management system fail in one of my cars even 
>>though I must have driven a  million miles in cars that used them.  I 
>>work in an office these days, I asked my co-workers if their cars had 
>>ever stopped while driving for a reason other then running out of gas, 
>>or a dead battery, none had.
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>I have, Ian.  I drive a Dodge Dakota QuadCab.  GM used the engine
>management for the Jeep Grande Cherokee in the Dakota, because it had
>proven itself to be reliable over several years of service.  In the
>Cherokee, I'm told, the computer was mounted low on the firewall.  In
>the Dakota, it is high on the right hand wheel well.
>
>Hot day.  My plan is a 4 hour drive to the beach.  Stopped at a fast
>food drive-thru to get a bite for the ride.  I get my food and start to
>pull out.  The engine dies completely.  Battery still strong.  All the
>accessories run.  Starter cranks the engine.  I would have assumed I was
>out of gas if I hadn't just filled up earlier that day.  Luckily, the
>restaurant was only 1/2 block behind my house, so I just walked home.  
>Later that evening, I decided to give it another try.  Walked back and
>she cranked right up the first try. 
>
>The problem was that the computer got heat soaked in the drive-thru and
>went bonkers.  Turns out that GM was having a hard time of it, having to
>replace a large number of computers with a beefed up resistor in there
>somewhere.  Had to drive it like that for a few days, with it
>periodically giving out if it got to hot (like at a stoplight. 
>Arrgh!!).  Got it running several times with a bag of dry ice.  Resorted
>to carrying a 2-liter bottle of water, until the dealer could schedule
>to fix it. (Bastards kept my truck for 3-days for what shouldn't have
>taken more than 10min. to fix).
>
>Moral of the story:  Stuff happens.  So carry a bottle of water or some
>dry ice when you fly.  You don't know when you'll need it, and it'll
>keep the backup CAS company.
>
>  
>