X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 987808 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:30:27 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.202.64; envelope-from=kenpowell@comcast.net Received: from 204.127.205.142 (sccrwbc58.attbi.com[204.127.205.158]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005060721294101600e5pi7e>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:29:41 +0000 Received: from [68.51.45.41] by 204.127.205.142; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:29:41 +0000 From: kenpowell@comcast.net To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: rotary risks. MTBE and the gospel Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:29:41 +0000 Message-Id: <060720052129.23322.42A611C5000547BC00005B1A220588636004040A99019F020A05@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VucG93ZWxsQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23322_1118179781_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23322_1118179781_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ernest, GM has enough problems without getting credit for this one - Dodge and Jeep is owned by Chrysler/Mercedes. Ken Powell Bryant, Arkansas 501-847-4721 RV-4 -------------- Original message -------------- > Ian Dewhirst wrote: > > >On the other hand I have > >never had an engine management system fail in one of my cars even though I > >must have driven a million miles in cars that used them. I work in an > >office these days, I asked my co-workers if their cars had ever stopped > >while driving for a reason other then running out of gas, or a dead > >battery, none had. > > > > > > > > I have, Ian. I drive a Dodge Dakota QuadCab. GM used the engine > management for the Jeep Grande Cherokee in the Dakota, because it had > proven itself to be reliable over several years of service. In the > Cherokee, I'm told, the computer was mounted low on the firewall. In > the Dakota, it is high on the right hand wheel well. > > Hot day. My plan is a 4 hour drive to the beach. Stopped at a fast > food drive-thru to get a bite for the ride. I get my food and start to > pull out. The engine dies completely. Battery still strong. All the > accessories run. Starter cranks the engine. I would have assumed I was > out of gas if I hadn't just filled up earlier that day. Luckily, the > restaurant was only 1/2 block behind my house, so I just walked home. > Later that evening, I decided to give it another try. Walked back and > she cranked right up the first try. > > The problem was that the computer got heat soaked in the drive-thru and > went bonkers. Turns out that GM was having a hard time of it, having to > replace a large number of computers with a beefed up resistor in there > somewhere. Had to drive it like that for a few days, with it > periodically giving out if it got to hot (like at a stoplight. > Arrgh!!). Got it running several times with a bag of dry ice. Resorted > to carrying a 2-liter bottle of water, until the dealer could schedule > to fix it. (Bastards kept my truck for 3-days for what shouldn't have > taken more than 10min. to fix). > > Moral of the story: Stuff happens. So carry a bottle of water or some > dry ice when you fly. You don't know when you'll need it, and it'll > keep the backup CAS company. > > -- > ,|"|"|, | > ----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta | > o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org | > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23322_1118179781_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Ernest,

GM has enough problems without getting credit for this one - Dodge and Jeep is owned by Chrysler/Mercedes.

Ken Powell
Bryant, Arkansas
501-847-4721
RV-4

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> Ian Dewhirst wrote:
>
> >On the other hand I have
> >never had an engine management system fail in one of my cars even though I
> >must have driven a million miles in cars that used them. I work in an
> >office these days, I asked my co-workers if their cars had ever stopped
> >while driving for a reason other then running out of gas, or a dead
> >battery, none had.
> >
> >
> >
>
> I have, Ian. I drive a Dodge Dakota QuadCab. GM used the engine
> management for the Jeep Grande Cherokee in the Dakota, because it had
> proven itself to be reliable over several years of service. In the
> Cherokee, I'm told, the computer was mounted low on the firewall. In
> the Dakota, it is high on the right hand wheel well.
>
> Hot day. My plan is a 4 hour drive to the beach. Stopped at a fast
> food drive-thru to get a bite for the ride. I get my food and start to
> pull out. The engine dies completely. Battery still strong. All the
> accessories run. Starter cranks the engine. I would have assumed I was
> out of gas if I hadn't just filled up earlier that day. Luckily, the
> restaurant was only 1/2 block behind my house, so I just walked home.
> Later that evening, I decided to give it another try. Walked back and
> she cranked right up the first try.
>
> The problem was that the computer got heat soaked in the drive-thru and
> went bonkers. Turns out that GM was having a hard time of it, having to
> replace a large number of computers with a beefed up resistor in there
> somewhere. Had to drive it like that for a few days, with it
> periodically giving out if it got to hot (like at a stoplight.
> Arrgh!!). Got it running several times with a bag of dry ice. Resorted
> to carrying a 2-liter bottle of water, until the dealer could schedule
> to fix it. (Bastards kept my truck for 3-days for what shouldn't have
> taken more than 10min. to fix).
>
> Moral of the story: Stuff happens. So carry a bottle of water or some
> dry ice when you fly. You don't know when you'll need it, and it'll
> keep the backup CAS company.
>
> --
> ,|"|"|, |
> ----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta |
> o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org |
>
> >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
> >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html

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