X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from dewhirst.ca ([64.26.156.111] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 987560 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:32:22 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.26.156.111; envelope-from=idewhirst@dewhirst.ca Received: from spatoday.com (www.dewhirst.ca [192.168.1.10]) (authenticated using Trusted-IP) by dewhirst.ca (ISMail v1.8.0) with SMTP; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:38:53 -0400 Received: from 205.194.127.36 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user idewhirst) by www.dewhirst.ca with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:38:53 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Message-ID: <27219.205.194.127.36.1118173133.squirrel@www.dewhirst.ca> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:38:53 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Subject: Re: rotary risks. MTBE and the gospel From: "Ian Dewhirst" To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Reply-To: idewhirst@dewhirst.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal I have been thinking a little harder about the issues Al has raised and I have to admit that this discussion has been a good thing for me. I decided that redundancy could be more of a problem then a solution. I just shaved 1500 dollars from my budget! The rest of my email rambles a bit but if you are without anything useful to do you can continue reading. No one in my family cares to listen to me talk about my plane and I am without anything better to do between meetings here at work. I had planned on an EC-2 as a my primary engine management system plus a DIY management system (a megasquirt derivative) as a backup to the EC-2. I was primarily concerned with the single crank angle sensor issue, it just seemed a bit sketchy to me. I thought hard about redundant crank angle sensors and I had the details worked out so that I would have two. Last weekend while I was clekoing and drilling up a storm I considered why dual CASs were so important to me, the obvious answer: "If the control unit does not know where the e-shaft is relative to TDC you are without spark and fuel." I suppose GA aircraft all have dual magnetos and the fuel delivery is not tied to either. It must be a fundamental requirement, hell I have not been flying that long and I have had a magneto fail, so I know it is a good thing. On the other hand I have never had an engine management system fail in one of my cars even though I must have driven a million miles in cars that used them. I work in an office these days, I asked my co-workers if their cars had ever stopped while driving for a reason other then running out of gas, or a dead battery, none had. The vehicle that has the hardest life in our family is a 1999 Dodge Grand Caravan ES, I have six children, four are old enough to drive and the van is the kid’s daily driver. It has a little more then 100,000 miles on the clock, 60,000 of those saw them as the primary drivers, the service history follows: oil changed about every 8,000 transmission changed oil three times coolant changed once 2 drive belts 1 tensioner 3 air filters 8 sets of brakes (6 front 2 rear) four sets of tires (3 X 4 summer, 1 X 4 winter) Replaced AC pipe chaffed where it penetrates the floor at the rear Replaced all of the ball joints and rubber mounts in the front end to bring back the “new car feel” at 70,000 miles. That is the total service history, it runs like a top, does not use any oil, I have never touched the engine or accessories. When I think back 20 years ago to my early days as an apprentice at a dealership I remember working on a few carbureted cars with mechanical fuel pumps, and points in the distributors, none of the mechanics wanted to work on them so they went to me the apprentice. They were pretty simple, but they did have their share of troubles. Every garage had a tow truck 30 years ago, and you use to see them on the road dragging around cars that had stopped running; I don’t think many garages have tow trucks any more and most of the wreckers I see are cleaning up after an accident. I recall reading about a fellow who presented at Oshkosh one year in the Alternative Engine forum. I think that he had a Subaru engine in a Kit Fox. He was questioned about his lack of redundant ignition and he replied “redundant reshmundant how often have you heard of an electronic ignition failing." I think that he had about 600 hours on his installation at the time… I hope he is still flying. -- Ian