X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 987123 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 08:33:04 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.67; envelope-from=jerryhey@earthlink.net Received: from [65.176.137.195] (helo=earthlink.net) by smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DfdFg-0004xx-7Q for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 08:32:17 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=h3U0DAeiZ4l7mcMPwX1el5MUzCDs7te4XOKj6ahhIE6wI1fOieM6bYIxWIccWp0A; Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:34:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: rotary risks. What are YOU doing to minimize them? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-254018824 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jerry Hey To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <75DB0969-D750-11D9-84D5-0003931B0C7A@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-ELNK-Trace: 8104856d7830ec6b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79bdab7b2413bf17e6e19fd02e62d57d9f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.176.137.195 --Apple-Mail-2-254018824 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On Tuesday, June 7, 2005, at 02:03 AM, Bob Perkinson wrote: > Thank you Bill. > > =A0 > > Bob Perkinson > > Hendersonville, TN. > > Rotary Powered RV9A > > If Nothing Changes > > Nothing Changes! > > =A0 > > Several of the people on the rotary list seem to know you and think=20 > well of your reputation, which is a good thing. So far in your posts I=20= > have read however, you have NOT SUGGESTED A SINGLE ITEM that has not=20= > been discussed on the fly rotary list prior to your notice. I.E. your=20= > systems should be redundant, big whoop that was a toughie to figure=20 > out. (Are you running two Subaru ECU's with the capability to switch=20= > between in the event of failure in your install?) In any engine=20 > installation there are risks which we seek to minimize. This used to=20= > be called common sense. I have always recommended to my friends that=20= > if they didn't have the ability to engineer all the subsystems=20 > themselves they were better off with a Lycoming or other proven=20 > system. (Although that is no guarantee of sure success) My rotary=20 > system will see at least 15-20 hours of ground test on an engine stand=20= > that includes the cowling and propeller and full power operation to=20 > test cooling and other subsystems. I'm tired of self anointed experts=20= > (or actual experts) sniping at a certain design without a true=20 > understanding of what they are trying to achieve. If fewer in-air=20 > failures of rotary powered aircraft is your only goal, great.=20 > Otherwise you are wasting archive space. If you can offer design=20 > assistance with parts we need like intake and exhaust systems bring it=20= > on. > > =A0 > > If you exist only to criticize the efforts of others, without=20 > specifics, don't waste my time. > > =A0 > > Bill Jepson > > Rotary 20B conversion in process > > Van's RV-10 It is interesting what people find valuable or interesting. I get=20 nothing out of Al Wick's comments. Jerry= --Apple-Mail-2-254018824 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tuesday, June 7, 2005, at 02:03 AM, Bob Perkinson wrote: = Arial0000,0000,8080Thank you Bill. = Arial0000,0000,8080=A0 Brush Script = MT0000,0000,0000Bob Perkinson Brush Script = MT0000,0000,0000Hendersonville, TN. Brush Script = MT0000,0000,0000Rotary Powered RV9A Brush Script = MT0000,0000,0000If Nothing Changes Brush Script = MT0000,0000,0000Nothing Changes! 0000,0000,0000=A0 = Arial0000,0000,0000Several of the people on the rotary list seem to know you and think well of your reputation, which is a good thing. So far in your posts I have read however, you have NOT SUGGESTED A SINGLE ITEM that has not been discussed on the fly rotary list prior to your notice. I.E. your systems should be redundant, big whoop that was a toughie to figure out. (Are you running two Subaru ECU's with the capability to switch between in the event of failure in your install?) In any engine installation there are risks which we seek to minimize. This used to be called common sense. I have always recommended to my friends that if they didn't have the ability to engineer all the subsystems themselves they were better off with a Lycoming or other proven system. (Although that is no guarantee of sure success) My rotary system will see at least 15-20 hours of ground test on an engine stand that includes the cowling and propeller and full power operation to test cooling and other subsystems. I'm tired of self anointed experts (or actual experts) sniping at a certain design without a true understanding of what they are trying to achieve. If fewer in-air failures of rotary powered aircraft is your only goal, great. Otherwise you are wasting archive space. If you can offer design assistance with parts we need like intake and exhaust systems bring it on. = Arial0000,0000,0000=A0 = Arial0000,0000,0000If you exist only to criticize the efforts of others, without specifics, don't waste my time. = Arial0000,0000,0000=A0 = Arial0000,0000,0000Bill Jepson = Arial0000,0000,0000Rotary 20B conversion in process = Arial0000,0000,0000Van's RV-10 It is interesting what people find valuable or interesting. I get nothing out of Al Wick's comments. Jerry= --Apple-Mail-2-254018824--