X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from email2k3.itlnet.net ([64.19.112.12] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 986779 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:10:31 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.19.112.12; envelope-from=jwvoto@itlnet.net Received: from rav.itlnet.net (unverified [192.168.10.149]) by itlnet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 6.1.17) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:09:49 -0500 Received: from JWVOTO (unverified [64.19.114.202]) by itlnet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 6.1.17) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:09:47 -0500 Message-ID: <00d801c56af5$9166eaa0$0100007f@JWVOTO> From: "Wendell Voto" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 problems - solved / rotary risks Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:11:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C56ACB.84180840" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C56ACB.84180840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Ernest Christley" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 problems - solved / rotary risks > Wendell Voto wrote: >=20 > > I have previously suggested that the wiring from the firewall to > > the engine be heavily protected by tubing or steel angle to > > prevent a breaking or broken belt from damaging the wires and > > stopping the engine. > > > > I plan on running the CAS wires in al tubing and all other wires > > in some sort of conduit. > > > > Wendell=20 > > >=20 > I won't have a belt, but I still plan to run all the wires along and=20 > securely strapped to a motor mount support leg. If I were running a=20 > belt, the only possibility of taking out the CAS would be at the = wire's=20 > service loop at the top of the sensor. But... > I'd like to suggest that if the belt takes out the CAS, in most cases=20 > you haven't lost much. With the belt, you've also lost your water = pump,=20 > so you're coming down much sooner than planned anyway. > I am thinking that most will use the dual belt setup for the WP and = alternater like Tracy did on the 13B.. One of these could come apart = and slap everthing silly until it completely let go. Wendell > I would be interested in some sort of 'waste-spark' system that could=20 > run the trailing plugs. A mechanical system, with...I don't=20 > know...maybe magnetos on the flywheel... timed to always fire a late=20 > spark, even if it is a very week spark. That way, the EC2 would still = > control the leading plug, and only in case of electrical system = failure=20 > would the late firing and inefficient mechanical backup come into = play. =20 > Fuel would be supplied with a single crude jet plumbed to the intake=20 > opening. Power would be compromised, but there should be enough to=20 > maintain altitude. When the electron pump gives up the ghost, this = sort=20 > of system would reduce the battery load to a fuel pump, radios and = panel=20 > lighting (plus a single EWP for me). >=20 > --=20 > ,|"|"|, | > ----=3D=3D=3D<{{(oQo)}}>=3D=3D=3D---- Dyke Delta | > o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org | >=20 > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C56ACB.84180840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Ernest Christley" <echristley@nc.rr.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 3:38 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 problems - solved / rotary = risks

> Wendell Voto wrote:
>
> = >     I=20 have previously suggested that the wiring from the firewall to
>=20 >     the engine be heavily protected by  = tubing or=20 steel angle to
> >     prevent a breaking = or broken=20 belt from damaging the wires and
> >     = stopping=20 the engine.
> >
> >     I plan on = running=20 the CAS wires in al tubing and all other wires
>=20 >     in some sort of conduit.
> = >
>=20 >     Wendell
> >
>
> I = won't have=20 a belt, but I still plan to run all the wires along and
> = securely=20 strapped to a motor mount support leg.  If I were running a =
> belt,=20 the only possibility of taking out the CAS would be at the wire's =
>=20 service loop at the top of the sensor.  But...
> I'd like to = suggest=20 that if the belt takes out the CAS, in most cases
> you haven't = lost=20 much.  With the belt, you've also lost your water pump,
> so = you're=20 coming down much sooner than planned anyway.
> I am=20 thinking that most will use the dual belt setup for the WP and = alternater like=20 Tracy did on the 13B..  One of these could come apart and slap = everthing=20 silly until it completely let go.
Wendell
 
> I would be interested in some sort of 'waste-spark' system = that could=20
> run the trailing plugs.  A mechanical system, with...I = don't=20
> know...maybe magnetos on the flywheel... timed to always fire a = late=20
> spark, even if it is a very week spark.  That way, the EC2 = would=20 still
> control the leading plug, and only in case of electrical = system=20 failure
> would the late firing and inefficient mechanical backup = come=20 into play. 
> Fuel would be supplied with a single crude jet = plumbed=20 to the intake
> opening.  Power would be compromised, but = there=20 should be enough to
> maintain altitude.  When the electron = pump=20 gives up the ghost, this sort
> of system would reduce the = battery load=20 to a fuel pump, radios and panel
> lighting (plus a single EWP = for=20 me).
>
> --
>=20         =20 ,|"|"|,           =             &= nbsp;           =20 |
>=20 ----=3D=3D=3D<{{(oQo)}}>=3D=3D=3D----     =    Dyke=20 Delta         |
>=20         o|  d =20 |o          www.ernest.isa-geek.org = =20 |
>
> >>  Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
> = >>  Archive:   http://lancai= ronline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html
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