X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.72] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.2) with ESMTP id 965146 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:24:24 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.72; envelope-from=sladerj@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.215.26.136]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527122336.HPM2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:23:36 -0400 Received: from JSLADE ([68.215.26.136]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527122336.BIKS29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@JSLADE> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:23:36 -0400 From: "John Slade" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: No fuel return for RX-8 six port Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:23:35 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal > Returning fuel from the rail to the sump is > what got Paul Connor in trouble. > Gravity feed main(s) to sump, return to main(s) ... Jim S. > > How do we KNOW that the return to the sump is what caused the prob? Are > we talking his redesign or the original install? > > The reason I am SO interested in this particular issue is that the > Velocity has a sump tank as well, but it holds nearly an hour of fuel at > lower power settings. Dave, An hour of fuel "consumption" is obviously NOT an hour of fuel draw. I think it would help to discuss the pros and cons of sump based systems depending on where you send the return. The way I see it there are cons in both directions. Return to the sump Risk pressurizing the sump. Needs overflow vent to the mains. Return to the mains Risk negative pressure in the sump and failure to gravity feed fast enough. A sump is nice in theory because it gives you an extra reserve, but in practice I don't see a "perfect" way to install one. Perhaps I'm missing something. Could someone explain the details of a good sump based system and show how the above issues are dealt with? John