X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.165] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.2) with ESMTP id 964955 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:56:48 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.165; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.72]) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0CE3701CE for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 04:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.165]) by filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.72]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26736-12-33 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 04:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-69-152.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.69.152]) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDD0370186 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 04:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4296A860.80705@frontiernet.net> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:56:00 -0500 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Amps consumed data References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0521-3, 05/26/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net I think you've got it!! ... Jim S. Charlie England wrote: > Most (all?) unmodified, internally regulated alternators would need an > overvoltage-controlled relay to disconnect the B lead in order to > protect the electronics from overvoltage in the case of a regulator > failure. Some failure modes of the regulator could cause continued > (unregulated) power to the field winding & therefore unregulated > output from the alternator. > > Was that as hard to read as it was to write? > > Charlie > (flying without protection) > > Finn Lassen wrote: > >> Yes, you'll need a relay in series with the "fat" wire, IF you have >> an internally regulated alternator that does NOT stop putting out >> voltage when the "thin" wire is disconnected. Looks like Bernie's >> alternator will not need that relay. No need to introduce an unneeded >> additional component - another point of possible failure. >> >> Finn >> >> Jim Sower wrote: >> >>> Finn Lassen wrote: >>> >>>> The small wire goes to its separate circuit breaker. The crowbar is >>>> connected to this wire (and ground). >>>> When the crowbar circuit senses an over-voltage, it clamps that >>>> wire to ground (and pops the circuit breaker). >>>> Only works on your kind of alternator that stops putting out >>>> voltage on the fat wire when it doesn't get voltage in on the >>>> "thin" wire. I have an internal regulator, so all I have is a >>>> "fat" (B+) wire. I jump the B+ terminal of the Alt to the "F" >>>> terminal with a couple inches of 17 ga wire. I connect and >>>> disconnect the B+ to the rest of the airplane with a "master" relay >>>> powered by the Alt switch on the panel and protected by Nuckolls' >>>> crowbar. In an over voltage situation, the relay opens. The Alt >>>> is disconnected from the airplane and I could care less what the >>>> voltage is. As someone else asked, does it really stop putting out >>>> voltage on the fat wire - easily measured on the fat wire with a >>>> voltmeter - voltage should drop to maybe 13.2 V as opposed to the >>>> 15 - 16 Volts when alternator is delivering power. >>>> >>>> Finn >>> >>> > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > >