X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.2) with ESMTP id 964876 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:32:52 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.70; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([209.215.61.193]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050527023208.HZOQ2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:32:08 -0400 Received: from [209.215.61.193] by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050527023207.SPSL26760.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[209.215.61.193]> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:32:07 -0400 Message-ID: <429686AD.9030004@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:32:13 -0500 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Amps consumed data References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Most (all?) unmodified, internally regulated alternators would need an overvoltage-controlled relay to disconnect the B lead in order to protect the electronics from overvoltage in the case of a regulator failure. Some failure modes of the regulator could cause continued (unregulated) power to the field winding & therefore unregulated output from the alternator. Was that as hard to read as it was to write? Charlie (flying without protection) Finn Lassen wrote: > Yes, you'll need a relay in series with the "fat" wire, IF you have an > internally regulated alternator that does NOT stop putting out voltage > when the "thin" wire is disconnected. Looks like Bernie's alternator > will not need that relay. No need to introduce an unneeded additional > component - another point of possible failure. > > Finn > > Jim Sower wrote: > >> Finn Lassen wrote: >> >>> The small wire goes to its separate circuit breaker. The crowbar is >>> connected to this wire (and ground). >>> When the crowbar circuit senses an over-voltage, it clamps that wire >>> to ground (and pops the circuit breaker). >>> Only works on your kind of alternator that stops putting out voltage >>> on the fat wire when it doesn't get voltage in on the "thin" wire. >>> I have an internal regulator, so all I have is a "fat" (B+) wire. I >>> jump the B+ terminal of the Alt to the "F" terminal with a couple >>> inches of 17 ga wire. I connect and disconnect the B+ to the rest >>> of the airplane with a "master" relay powered by the Alt switch on >>> the panel and protected by Nuckolls' crowbar. In an over voltage >>> situation, the relay opens. The Alt is disconnected from the >>> airplane and I could care less what the voltage is. As someone else >>> asked, does it really stop putting out voltage on the fat wire - >>> easily measured on the fat wire with a voltmeter - voltage should >>> drop to maybe 13.2 V as opposed to the 15 - 16 Volts when alternator >>> is delivering power. >>> >>> Finn >>