X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [64.4.51.86] (HELO hotmail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.2) with ESMTP id 962044 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 24 May 2005 14:22:12 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.4.51.86; envelope-from=lors01@msn.com Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:21:27 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.51.220 by BAY107-DAV14.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 24 May 2005 18:21:27 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [64.4.51.220] X-Originating-Email: [lors01@msn.com] X-Sender: lors01@msn.com From: "Tracy Crook" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 problems/ARPA thoughts Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:21:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C5606B.DD24C9B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:21:23 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 May 2005 18:21:27.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[666DBC10:01C5608D] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C5606B.DD24C9B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh well, no one can fault you for lack of persistence John. Will = report the findings when the EM2 arrives. Will check your EC2 for more = subtle problems that may have not shown up in my brief look at it = yesterday. Time is a real crunch factor right now and I haven't even = had time to read most of the messages here. ARPA (or whatever it ends up being) The intent of the proposed organization sounds good and I'd support it's = efforts but definitely would like the charter (or whatever) to reflect = the voluntary aspect of it. I have the same cautious attitude about = malignant bureaucracies as Rusty does. =20 Probably one of the most valuable things that could come out of it would = be an FAQ 'book' with indexed subjects related to aircraft rotary use. = This on-line group would be ideal for developing the list of questions = and appropriate answers. Bob's (?) wiki site probably has a lot of = material to start with but I haven't had much time to look at it. Which brings me to an important point: It should be acknowledged up = front that there will be differing opinions on what the correct answers = to various questions will be. Anyone who has read this list for awhile = will know this. It should be stressed to whoever uses the services of = ARPA that there are frequently many answers to any given question and = choosing the final answer is their responsibility. The best this group = can hope to accomplish is to get the really "off the wall" answers = eliminated. =20 If members have the opportunity to inspect & critique projects (at the = builder's request), that's great. Same caveat here as on the FAQ. Tracy (coffee break over, back on my head) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Slade=20 Hi Tracy, I hope you're refreshed and in a really good mood after your vacation. Thanks very much for the report. I'm responding in detail here in case = others can learn from my misfortune.... =20 I have good news, and I have bad news. >SNIP< John (not accepting calls today) ------=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C5606B.DD24C9B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Oh well, no one can fault you for lack of persistence = John. =20 Will report the findings when the EM2 arrives. Will = check your=20 EC2 for more subtle problems that may have not shown up in my brief look = at it=20 yesterday. Time is a real crunch factor right now and I haven't = even had=20 time to read most of the messages here.

ARPA (or whatever it ends up being)

The intent of the proposed organization sounds good and I'd support = it's=20 efforts but definitely would like the charter (or whatever) to reflect = the=20 voluntary aspect of it. I have the same cautious attitude about = malignant=20 bureaucracies as Rusty does.

Probably one of the most valuable things that could come out of it = would be=20 an FAQ 'book' with indexed subjects related to aircraft rotary = use. =20 This on-line group would be ideal for developing the list of = questions and=20 appropriate answers. Bob's (?) wiki site probably has a = lot of=20 material to start with but I haven't had much time to look at it.

Which brings me to an important point: = It=20 should be acknowledged up front that there will be differing opinions on = what=20 the correct answers to various questions will be. Anyone who has = read this=20 list for awhile will know this. It should be stressed to = whoever uses=20 the services of ARPA that there are frequently many answers to any = given=20 question and choosing the final answer is their = responsibility. =20 The best this group can hope to accomplish is to get the really "off the = wall"=20 answers eliminated.

If members have the opportunity to inspect & critique projects = (at the=20 builder's request), that's great. Same caveat here as on the = FAQ.

Tracy (coffee break over, back on my head)

----- Original Message -----

From: John=20 Slade

Hi=20 Tracy,

I hope you're refreshed and in = a=20 really good mood after your=20 vacation.

Thanks very much=20 for the report. I'm responding in detail here in case others can = learn=20 from my misfortune....

I have=20 good news, and I have bad news.

>SNIP<

John = (not=20 accepting calls = today)

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