Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #2211
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Tachs & things
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 18:45:35 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Todd,
    I use a regular tach meant for a four cylinder engine and run it off the yellow wire from the trailing ignition module which is designed to drive a Tach.  I also drove it off the negative lead of the leading coil for a while.
 
    Great to hear that the Ford evaporator cores appear to be doing the job.  Lets see 85C = 9/5*C+32 = 185F, yep! that looks very good, I can generally get about a 3 minute runup at max power with the cowl on before the temps start getting too high.  Coolder OAT and taking the cowl off extends that considerably.
 
Hope the water pump continues to do as good as it initially looks.
 
Congratulation!!
 
Ed Anderson
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Haywire
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 3:09 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Tachs & things

Hey Guys;
    I took the plane to the airport on Friday, mounted the wings and went taxi testing yesterday. As simple as this may be for many of you, it was a bit of a thrill for me. Everything seems to run great. I'm currently running the EC2 in it's default settings as I was awaiting the EM2, before beginning tuning, but as most of you are now aware it may not be available until December. I bought a couple of temp & pressure gauges and a couple of tachs. Today I'll go see if I can find an EGT & O2 sensor.
    For those that are curious, The EWP seems to be working great, but with one concern that I'll keep a close eye on. I taxied for about 20 min with one full power run up, and temps never exceeded 85C, so the cooling system appears to be adequate. Some of you may recall that I went with the Ford evaporator cores because they fit in much better than the GM cores. Even though flow tests showed that they had slightly higher flow rates than the GM cores, some were concerned that they may not work due to a magazine article from a few years back, where the two different cores were cut open for a comparison of tube area, that showed the Ford cores appeared to be more restrictive. I realize that it is still very preliminary, but so far I like what I see.
    Now what concerns me.. I wired the EWP with a bypass switch so that I can run the EWP at full speed, bypassing the temp controller. I also use this switch to continue circulation after engine shut down. So yesterday after the engine was shut down, I could hear the EWP pumping when suddenly it made a few unhealthy sounding noises like it was about to seize, then it quickly returned to normal and didn't do it again. I will keep a close eye on this.
    Now about tachs.. I've tried a couple of approaches. I bought a Hastings tach, which I've currently connected to the EC2 tach output. Now this is a 12 pulse/rev signal for a high resolution tach, like the EIS. So with the tach set for an 8 cylinder 4 stroke, it should read 3X higher than actual. My test runs show this to be right (I think), but once the tach wraps, the needle will drop down to approximately 1/2, giving me a reading that is closer to actual. This leads me to wonder if I can add a filter of some sort, to get the right signal. Maybe a good question for 'electric Bob'. Tracy suggested to Rusty that he could get a trigger signal from a coil trigger. However this should produce 1/2 the actual signal, when set for a 4 cylinder. So I theorized that a 2 stroke tach may produce an accurate signal so I grabbed a Bombardier tach and wired it into a coil trigger, but like Rusty, I found that this didn't work at all. I'm not certain why, as the coil trigger should give at least some signal. My new ski-doo has a digital engine management computer, which provides the tach signal, so I'm thinking that it may be a high resolution signal, so I think maybe I'll pull it out and take up to the airport and try it.
    Is there anybody on this list that is using the EC2 and getting an accurate signal to drive an inexpensive, off the shelf tach? What about those, not using the EC2, how are you getting your trigger signal?
 
    Any input would be greatly appreciated.

S. Todd Bartrim
Turbo 13B RV-9Endurance
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm

   "Whatever you vividly imagine, Ardently desire, Sincerely believe in, Enthusiastically act upon, Must inevitably come to pass".

 
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