Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com ([24.93.67.83] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b9) with ESMTP id 2473843 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:16:27 -0400 Received: from o7y6b5 (clt78-221.carolina.rr.com [24.93.78.221]) by ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with SMTP id h6E1DMqQ013063 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00d801c349a6$b419e2e0$1702a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine Failure Report from Chuck Dunlap Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:24:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 > > First inflight engine failure of a > > rotary engine I am aware of. Sounds like apex seal went or foreign object > > was injested. > > I thought the engine was supposed to run on one rotor. Rought, but enough to > keep you airborne was what I'd read somewhere. > John Slade > > That probably depends on several factors, John. One is the failure mode, if only one apex seal fails (and fails completely) you would lose the power (or most of it) from two of the three faces of the rotor. More drastic failure than that may take out all the apex seals thereby reducing you to power of only one rotor will really cause some pretty heavy shaking of the aircraft and of course power lost. Some folks assume that losing one rotor means losing 1/2 power, but that is not necessarily the case. If you lost one rotor and could maintain the airflow through the engine with the same prop load that the two rotor provided then you would have 1/2 power available. But, once you lose one rotor (and assuming you don't have a variable pitch prop the load remains unchanged), the rpm, and therefore the airflow drops off to less than 1/2 the airflow of two rotors, so the remaining rotor can not maintain even 1/2 the power. My best guess is that you might retain approx 1/3 the power of two functioning rotor with a single rotor running. I must admit I was somewhat surprised at first to hear that even with 3900 rpm (assuming it stayed at that), Chuck was not able to maintain altitude. But, then at 12000 MSL power would have been way down with two good rotors and I don't know - but I assume that the airport he was aiming for was at least 5000 MSL in that region around Grandcanyon and it is summertime there so the density altitude was probably considerably higher than that. Since Chuck was flying north to the Arlington flyin, I would assume he had his usual camping gear and in other words the aircraft was probably fairly heavily loaded. So given all those factors, it sounds like his flight required more power than the damaged engine could deliver under those conditions.. Another way to look at it, is that the engine did produce sufficient power long enough to get him almost the 21 miles toward an airport. Had this happend in many parts of the country (such as back here in North Carolina (and he at 12000 msl) he would have probably easily had made an airport. It did apparently get him to a suitable emergency landing spot on the highway. Most reciprocating engines that lost 1/2 of its cylinders to engine damage would have most like quit running immediately. I can maintain level flight in the pattern with 3200 rpm, but that is near sea level (1600 MSL) which is of course not the same conditions that Chuck was faced with. So even though the single rotor was not able to maintain flight, you might consider that it kept him airborn long enough for other alternatives. Just my opinion of course. Best Regards Ed Anderson