X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.102] (HELO ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 933305 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 05 May 2005 08:07:33 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.102; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-189-178.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.189.178]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j45C6iY5006145 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003401c5516a$ec8fd6c0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Duct Nearly Finished Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:06:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C55149.65476F50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C55149.65476F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No! Steve!, No! Never! {:>). Actually, I have come a ways since I made = my first horrid attempt at fiberglass work. I used to spend a week on = the mold, Paint it with mold separator, wax it, etc. Then mainly = because of the shapes ended up having to destroy the mold to get the = product. First breakthrough was use of duct tape - but still ended up = with foam mold mainly destroyed. So know I use a type of "tan" foam that = epoxy does not destroy, carve the shape with rasp and a brush with stiff = brass bristles and slap the fiberglass directly on the foam. For ducts, = its nice because then I can shape the foam internally to get exactly = the curve I want. Fiberglass does have advantages in many cases. But, don't think a large scale composite project is even on the distant = horizon {:>) Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Brooks=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:04 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Duct Nearly Finished Ed, It sounds like you're becoming quite handy with fiberglass. You may = be ready to start a composite project. Steve Brooks=20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:44 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Duct Nearly Finished Got the new duct nearly finished. Just need to pop rivet the hinge = halves on it, sand some of the worst bumps off, paint it and put it on. = Then ready to go fly and try out the new duct and engine. Took two = days, to make the mold, fiberglass the outside and contour the inside = for that trumpet shape - it would have taken me two weeks 5 years ago - = but still prefer metal {:>). Now just have to whip up a combination filter holder and Plenum and = I'm done with mods for the summer (I think). Tracy got the apex seals for analysis but just headed out to = Colorado like he had planned rather than postpone his trip to play with = the seals - just don't know about some folks {:>). Sure makes me wonder why airline builders use all of those expensive = circuit breakers rather than cheap fuses - must be something I'm = missing. Fortunately, we have the right to make the choice that suits = our preferences (and pocket book). Ed Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C55149.65476F50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No! Steve!, No!  Never! = {:>). =20 Actually, I have come a ways since I made my first horrid attempt at = fiberglass=20 work.  I used to spend a week on the mold, Paint it with mold = separator,=20 wax it, etc.  Then mainly because of the shapes ended up having to = destroy=20 the mold to get the product.  First breakthrough was use of duct = tape - but=20 still ended up with foam mold mainly destroyed. So know I use a type of = "tan"=20 foam that epoxy does not destroy, carve the shape with rasp and a brush = with=20 stiff brass bristles and slap the fiberglass directly on the foam.  = For=20 ducts, its nice because then I can shape the foam internally to = get =20 exactly the curve I want.  Fiberglass does have advantages in many=20 cases.
 
But, don't think a large scale = composite project is=20 even on the distant horizon {:>)
 
Ed
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Steve=20 Brooks
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 = 7:04=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Duct = Nearly=20 Finished

Ed,
It=20 sounds like you're becoming quite handy with fiberglass.  You may = be=20 ready to start a composite project.
 
Steve Brooks
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:44 = PM
To:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Duct Nearly = Finished

Got the new duct nearly = finished.  Just=20 need to pop rivet the hinge halves on it, sand some of the worst = bumps off,=20 paint it and put it on.  Then ready to go fly and try out the = new duct=20 and engine.  Took two days, to make the mold, fiberglass the = outside=20 and contour the inside for that trumpet shape - it would have taken = me two=20 weeks 5 years ago - but still prefer metal {:>).
 
Now just have to whip up a = combination filter=20 holder and Plenum and I'm done with mods for the summer (I=20 think).
 
Tracy got the apex seals for = analysis but=20 just headed out to Colorado like he had planned rather than postpone = his=20 trip to play with the seals - just don't know about some folks=20 {:>).
 
Sure makes me wonder why airline = builders use=20 all of those expensive circuit breakers rather than cheap fuses - = must be=20 something I'm missing.  Fortunately, we have the right to make = the=20 choice that suits our preferences (and pocket book).
 
Ed
 
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary=20 Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
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