Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #21435
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Mismarked Fuse?? was [FlyRotary] Re: To Fuse or not to Fuse
Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 07:59:16 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Hi Paul,
 
You loose nothing by having a reset possibility - something you do not have with a fuse.  Those of use who have successfully reset a CB and regained a system just have a hard time understanding why anyone would want to forego the possibility of being able to regain a critical system.  True, it may not work every time or even most times, but its worked enough times for me and others (such as yourself) to make it a viable choice.  Like I say I use fuses - just not on flight critical systems. 
 
However, for those who decide to use fuses, I think your discovery of apparently a apparently mismatched fuse should be something they add to their check list when installing/replacing fuses. I suppose if you use a different metal as the fuse link (I don't have any ideal which alloy is used) then you might could use a thinner link - but I would think the alloy would be pretty standard.   But, Like you said could have been made in China on a Monday or Friday or someone hired a color-vision impaired person to put the caps on{:>).   Good detective work!
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 12:29 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: To Fuse or not to Fuse

Hi, Ed....thanks for the links.  After successfully resetting fuses in military aircraft, I feel more comfort in knowing that I at least have the option to reset or not to reset.  In one case, it was the landing gear motor on a King Air that got pretty hot during touch-and-go's during a checkride. Once the motor cooled, the circuit breaker was successfully reset, and we were able to lower the gear. I am replacing my fuel pump fuses with CB's.
     Anyway, the purpose of this email is to comment on the fuse that blew on my fuel pump circuit. We looked at it with a maginfying glass, and there was no dark or black area around the break, as there often appears after a fuse blows. What we did notice, however is that the gage of the wire inside the fuse looked suspiciously small. We compared it to 5 or 6 other 20 amp fuses we had, and the wire was definately smaller in gage. It looked to be the same size as a 7 1/2 amp fuse we compared it to. It did, however have the standard yellow plastic cap and marking of 20 on it.  It definately was a lighter gage wire used for the fuse portion than the other 20 amp fuses we had. Possibly a manufacturing defect, or maybe it was a 7 1/2 amp fuse and it received a yellow cap marked 20 amps somewhere along the assembly line or ???  Don't know the answer to this one, but there is no doubt at all that the wire was similar in size to a 7 1/2 amp fuse. Maybe something to look at when installing them. Might have been made on a Monday or a Friday.   FWIW.   Paul Conner
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:16 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] To Fuse or not to Fuse

 
Since this is the umpteenth time that the fuse vs CB topic has come up (not just on the rotary lists but aircraft list in general), and certainly won't e the last, I decided to do something different than just spout my views on the topic.  I surfed the net and see if I could find anything on it.
 
Here are some of the URLs I found of interest.
 
This guy actually did some tests and found among other things that a fuse rated capacity can slowly degrade with repeated high current flows even if below its burst point.  But, read it and draw your own conclusions.
 
 
This one has an interesting summary, but since they are presented by the makers of CB can be considered Biased
 
 
 
Another maker of CB propaganda, however they do point out that you can not test a fuse since it is destroyed if it proves it works at the specified rating where as you can a CB
 
 
Here is Bob K's and his well reasoned  argument  FOR fuses
 
 
 
It appears that there is as much debate outside the aviation community (or more) about fuses Vs CB.  It appears to me the CB is winning there simply because of convince rather than any technical advantage -  That is once the problem causing the short is fixed, you simply reset the CB rather than trying to find a fuse of the right rating and shape to replace the blown one and possibly sticking in the wrong fuse. And you know Americans - convince before all else {:>) -  At least that's the way it appears to me.
 
Ed
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com


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