X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop-Diagnostic: (direct reply)\eX-PolluStop-Score: 0.00\eX-PolluStop: Scanned with Niversoft PolluStop 2.1 RC1, http://www.niversoft.com/pollustop Return-Path: Received: from mxsf05.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.205] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c4) with ESMTP id 867508 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:05:00 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.225.28.205; envelope-from=gamarr@charter.net Received: from mxip18.cluster1.charter.net (mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.148]) by mxsf05.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DE4Exd018126 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:04:14 -0400 Received: from 68.187.38.143.ts46v-07.otnc1.ftwrth.tx.charter.com (HELO DB77R351) (68.187.38.143) by mxip18.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 13 Apr 2005 10:04:14 -0400 Message-Id: <3rr9ri$udddln@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net> X-Ironport-AV: i="3.92,97,1112587200"; d="scan'208"; a="1020704439:sNHT15774556" From: "Giffen A Marr" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: Intake Filter Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:03:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcU/2A8sdP+tM9ROQI2qQN5VGOmPVAAVmJmA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: Thought I would add to the knowledge base. I spent several years in North Africa flying piston powered helicopters and airplanes. When I arrived, the TBO on the Hiller 12 with a dry filter was 25 hours. We installed a filter based on a Caterpillar design that had a mesh filter with oil and a 180deg turn for the air above the oil. TBO's went from 25 to 125 hours. Had a Sikorsky H-19, where the crew chief had a metal box filed with gasoline. At ever stop, he would take out the air filter and replace it with one that had been washed in the gasoline and then oiled. With that procedure, we got about 100 hours out of the engine. On a Dehavaland Otter, the air intake was on the lower cowl. On take-off, you could see a whirlwind of dust come right up the back of the propeller and into the intake. Needless to say, 125-150 hours to TBO. We also had the Beaver, the intake was on top of the cowl. Don't remember what we were getting for TBO, but it did not have engine problems operating off of unimproved desert landscape. The helicopter would make their own dust storm, so every take-off and landing was in a big cloud of dust. On the airplanes, it was obvious that the location of the intake made a significant difference in how much debris was sucked into the engine. Giff Marr LIVP/20B 31%