X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop-Diagnostic: (direct reply)\eX-PolluStop-Score: 0.00\eX-PolluStop: Scanned with Niversoft PolluStop 2.1 RC1, http://www.niversoft.com/pollustop Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.103] (HELO ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c4) with ESMTP id 866972 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:42:21 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-185-127.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.185.127]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j3CNfXL5018444 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006001c53fb9$2bad6250$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Rx-8 Rotors useable in 91 13B? Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:41:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01C53F97.A4676BE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C53F97.A4676BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks George, I will look around Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: George Lendich=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:00 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Rx-8 Rotors useable in 91 13B? Ed, About $50 to $60 bucks a slot ( wirecut - EDM), this was my first = quote and I have yet to look for alternatives. This is still cheaper = than a RX7 9:1 rotor. BTW $270 US is not the cheapest price, I only paid $273 Aust ( I = believe with a 70% mark-up) and the exchange rate is 77c in the US = dollar. So a good price to you chaps is $210 - 220. Got to shop around. George ( down under) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:48 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Fw: Rx-8 Rotors useable in 91 13B? Here is the response I got from Mazdatrix about using RX-8 rotors in = a 91 block. The rotors are $270 less than the 9.7:1 rotors, but I = imagine that milling the slot deeper will cut into that price = differential a bit. But, on the other hand I could have an RX - 7 1/2 = engine in my aircraft. I am going to look into this a bit more and find out how much to = mill a rotor. A lighter rotor =3D> more rpms without increasing stress? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Geoff (Mazdatrix)=20 To: eanderson@carolina.rr.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Rx-8 Rotors useable in 91 13B? You can run the renesis rotors if you get the apex seal grooves = milled deeper to accept the 86-95 apex seals, or the 74-85 3mm seals. = The Renesis seals are not tall enough to pass over the exhaust port = without warping and breaking. You also need to run the 86-95 corner = seals, not the Renesis corner seals. (there's a metallurgical conflict = with the side housings)=20 The front and rear counterweights from the Renesis engine to balance = the rotors are available. Geoff Barton Mazdatrix 2730 Gundry Ave Signal Hill, CA 90755 www.mazdatrix.com geoff@mazdatrix.com =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: mail@mazdatrix.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:40 PM Subject: Rx-8 Rotors useable in 91 13B? Can the RX-8 rotors be installed in the 91 13B block? Assuming = you get the seals,bearings, etc for the RX-8 Rotors?=20 Are counter weights for the lighter RX-8 Rotors available? Thanks Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C53F97.A4676BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks George, I will look = around
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 George=20 Lendich
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 = 7:00=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: = Rx-8 Rotors=20 useable in 91 13B?

Ed,
About $50 to $60 bucks a slot ( = wirecut - EDM),=20 this was my first quote and I have yet to look for alternatives. This = is still=20 cheaper than a RX7 9:1 rotor.
 
BTW $270 US is not the cheapest = price, I only=20 paid $273 Aust ( I believe with a 70% mark-up) and the exchange = rate is=20 77c in the US dollar. So a good price to you chaps is $210 - 220. Got = to shop=20 around.
 
George ( down under)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed Anderson
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, = 2005 6:48=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Fw: Rx-8 = Rotors=20 useable in 91 13B?

Here is the response I got from = Mazdatrix about=20 using RX-8 rotors in a 91 block.  The rotors are $270 less than = the=20 9.7:1 rotors, but I imagine that milling the slot deeper will cut = into that=20 price differential a bit.  But, on the other hand I could have = an RX -=20 7 1/2 engine in my aircraft.
I am going to look into this a bit = more and=20 find out how much to mill a rotor.  A lighter rotor =3D> = more rpms=20 without increasing stress?
 
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: = Geoff=20 (Mazdatrix)
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Rx-8 Rotors useable in 91 13B?

You can run the renesis rotors if = you get the=20 apex seal grooves milled deeper to accept the 86-95 apex seals, or = the 74-85=20 3mm seals. The Renesis seals are not tall enough to pass over the = exhaust=20 port without warping and breaking. You also need to run the 86-95 corner seals, not the = Renesis corner=20 seals. (there's a metallurgical conflict with the side=20 housings) 
The front and rear counterweights = from the=20 Renesis engine to balance the rotors are = available.

Geoff Barton
Mazdatrix
2730 Gundry Ave
Signal = Hill, CA=20 90755
www.mazdatrix.com
geoff@mazdatrix.com
 
 
 
 

 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: = Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:40 PM
Subject: Rx-8 Rotors useable in 91 13B?

Can the RX-8 rotors be installed = in the 91=20 13B block?  Assuming you get the seals,bearings, etc for the = RX-8=20 Rotors?
Are counter weights for the = lighter RX-8=20 Rotors available?
 
Thanks
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW = Rotary=20 Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
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