X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop-Diagnostic: (direct reply)\eX-PolluStop-Score: 0.00\eX-PolluStop: Scanned with Niversoft PolluStop 2.1 RC1, http://www.niversoft.com/pollustop Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.100] (HELO ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c4) with ESMTP id 865905 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:28:28 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.100; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-185-127.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.185.127]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j3CBRfLw011024 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005501c53f52$a57d5610$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Washing Machine Was The Verdit! c was No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<( Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:27:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0052_01C53F31.1E398280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C53F31.1E398280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are right about that, Kelly. Hopefully the dryer will hold out = until I get this tear down finished and order what parts I need. Ed A ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kelly Troyer=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:32 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Washing Machine Was The Verdit! c was No Joy on = Sun & Fun{:<( Ed, =20 Interesting !! I just replaced the exact part.......Also no = diagram......Not nearly as much fun as tearing into a rotary !! -- Kelly Troyer=20 Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2=20 -------------- Original message from "Ed Anderson" = : --------------=20 I don't know, Finn. I was under the impression that the seals (not = counting Tracy's seals) were fairly brittle and broke before they bent. I have the engine back in the shop and was starting the tear down, = when the wife came down and informed me the washing machine wasn't = working AGGHGGG! Of course, the appliance makers now assume no one = does home repair so there is not so much as a parts exploded diagram. = But, managed to get it apart expecting to see belts - but nope - direct = drive. But, I do spot the problem there is a plastic coupler between = the motor and the gear box and it is clearly broken. Well, because of = no parts diagram have to search the inter net to find a diagram, locate = the part number and find a store that had one. But, great the store = will print me out a diagram of the system! Wife goes to get part while = I return to engine. Comes back with part, but because the lady I talked = to had gone to lunch the new lady didn't know which diagram to print out = ARRRGGG! =20 Anyhow as I write this the wife is cleaning up the mess around the = washer and she has just called, so its back to putting the washer = backtogether and then maybe to the engine Arrrrrrgggg! Ed A ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Finn Lassen=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:44 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The Verdit! c wasRe: [FlyRotary] No Joy = on Sun & Fun{:<( Ed Anderson wrote: =20 It appears that Al's assessment may be correct that particularly = because of the apparent orientation of the electrode when I screw it = into the hole ending up such that the apex hit the curved back part = rather than the end pointed toward the center electrode. It appears the = apex seal did bounce over that curve part for a while and either the = apex seals finally gave way or the springs under them did. Perhaps Lynn = would know if its possible to break the springs while leaving the seal = intact.=20 Could the seals be bent to the point they no longer can more = freely in the grooves? Finn ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C53F31.1E398280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You are right about that, Kelly.  = Hopefully=20 the dryer will hold out until I get this tear down finished and order = what parts=20 I need.
 
Ed A
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kelly = Troyer
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 = 2:32=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Washing = Machine Was=20 The Verdit! c was No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<(

 Ed,   
    Interesting !! I just replaced the exact=20 part.......Also no diagram......Not
nearly as much fun as tearing into a rotary !!
 
--
Kelly Troyer
Dyke=20 Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2




--------------=20 Original message from "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com&g= t;:=20 --------------

I don't know, Finn.  I was = under the=20 impression that the seals (not counting Tracy's seals) were fairly = brittle=20 and broke before they bent.
 
I have the engine back in the shop = and was=20 starting the tear down, when the wife came down and informed me the = washing=20 machine wasn't working AGGHGGG!   Of course, the appliance = makers=20 now assume no one does home repair so there is not so much as a = parts=20 exploded diagram.  But, managed to get it apart expecting to = see belts=20 - but nope - direct drive.  But, I do spot the problem there is = a=20 plastic coupler between the motor and the gear box and it is clearly = broken.  Well, because of no parts diagram have to search the = inter net=20 to find a diagram, locate the part number and find a store that had=20 one.  But, great the store will print me out a diagram of the=20 system!  Wife goes to get part while I return to engine.  = Comes=20 back with part, but because the lady I talked to had gone to lunch = the new=20 lady didn't know which diagram to print out ARRRGGG!  =
 
Anyhow as I write this the wife is = cleaning up=20 the mess around the washer and she has just called, so its back to = putting=20 the washer backtogether and then maybe to the engine
 
Arrrrrrgggg!
 
Ed A
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Finn Lassen
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Monday, April 11, = 2005 8:44=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = The Verdit!=20 c wasRe: [FlyRotary] No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<(

Ed Anderson wrote: =  =20
It appears that Al's assessment = may be=20 correct that particularly because of the apparent orientation of = the=20 electrode when I screw it into the hole ending up such that the = apex hit=20 the curved back part rather than the end pointed toward the = center=20 electrode.  It appears the apex seal did bounce over that = curve=20 part for a while and either the apex seals finally gave way or = the=20 springs under them did.  Perhaps Lynn would know if its = possible to=20 break the springs while leaving the seal intact.=20
Could the seals be bent to the point = they no=20 longer can more freely in the=20 grooves?

Finn
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