Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: flyrotary Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 22:02:04 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from ncsmtp02.ogw.rr.com ([24.93.67.83] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b9) with ESMTP id 1801657 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 21:33:59 -0400 Received: from mail5.carolina.rr.com (fe5 [24.93.67.52]) by ncsmtp02.ogw.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9A1YBup016350 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from o7y6b5 ([24.25.90.153]) by mail5.carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:33:57 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <00a101c26ffd$dc126fc0$1702a8c0@WorkGroup> From: "Ed Anderson" X-Original-To: "flyrotary" Subject: Auto Coversion Judging X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:39:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I attended the SERFI flyin along with Tracy Crook and Finn Lassen with our Rotary powered RVs. We were told that there was going to be an Auto Conversion award, however, that did not turn out to be the case. I fired off a message to the EAA chief Judging Official complaining about rthe lack of an Auto Conversion standard in the judging handbook (which most chapter judges use). I almost immediately received a somewhat irate e mail from the SERFI folks (apparently the EAA immediately sent my message to them and in hindsight, I probably should have done the same). I have since replay and while and we continue to disagree on some points (including the cosmetic aspect of judging and whether experimentation is still a focus of the EAA), however, the good news appears to be that the SERFI has appointed an Auto Conversion board with Dick Simpson as its head to work out a meaningful criteria. While much remains to be done on establishing a criteria, it appears that the point has been make that the focus should be on the FWF aspects. A couple of their initial thoughts on criteria was not that bad and if they maintain that focus, just might come up with a meaningful set. For example, the judging would be limited to auto conversions done by individuals and no factory FWF kits would qualify . One the other hand you won't have to build your own PSRU as that - and certain other components (not defined as yet) could be purchased. However, if you did build you own PSRU you would probably garner more points. Aircraft appearance would not be completely done away with, but would probably be used more as a "tie breaker" between auto conversions. In any case, I have offered to pull together some criteria for input to this committee. You know how it goes, if you complain then your' asked to put up or shut up {:>). I would appreciate any suggestions as to approach and criteria input. I personally think that perhaps a FWF should be first broken into areas such as: Engine Mount. PSRU. Engine. Ignition. Fuel System, etc. Then perhaps a set of common criteria for each section such as 1. Soundness of Design 2. Reliability 3. Fail safe/graceful considerations or what ever makes sense and can be judged. Perhaps there should also be an "Innovation factor" for extra points? No doubt subjective will still be there in the judging, but this would help. So send me any suggestions and I'll try to organize and pull it all together and then present it to the list for comments. One thing of interest, they indicated that they are considering requiring "Technical Data" and perhaps "Drawings". While I think this could be good, it could turn into a paper mill, so any thoughts in this area would be appreciated. Ed (Stir up the Pot) Anderson Ed Anderson Matthews, NC RV-6A N494BW eanderson@carolina.rr.com